What's the most evil corporation in the world?
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http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/08/tthe-most-evil-company-on-the-planet-monsanto.aspx
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm
http://healthyparenting.net/blog/2006/12/24/the-14-most-evil-corporations-according-to-global-exchange/
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Wal-Mart regularly says it does not tolerate child labor or forced or prison labor, but when it comes to walking the walk the company refuses to reveal its Chinese contractors and will not allow independent, unannounced inspections of its contractors’ facilities.
Clothing sewn in China is usually done by young women, 17 to 25 year old (at 25 they are fired as ‘too old’) forced to work seven days a week, often past midnight for 12 to 28 cents an hour, with no benefits.
In October 10, 2002, the National Organization for Women reported that the Maine Department of Labor ordered Wal-Mart to pay the largest fine in state history for violating child labor laws. The Department of Labor discovered 1,436 child labor law infractions at 20 Wal-Mart chains in the state.
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you ever see this:
http://www.amazon.com/Wal-Mart-High-Cost-Low-Price/dp/B000BTH4K4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1267228486&sr=8-1
or CNBC's followup they released late last year?
I agree for all the reasons you list and more. Many small businesses in the United States have been destroyed when Wal-mart moves into an area. AFLCIO corporate watch, Walmart and Small Business, Comments on Time Magazine report on Walmart and Small business
This is really sad... but you know, it isn't just Walmart that do this... sadly, there are more big corporations taking advantage of the tough situation on other countries. I live in a third world country that's why I always see even young kids working just to help their family. :( What's worst is that in the work they do, they just get a little from it.
The most evil corporation in the world hasn't been developed yet, but it's coming. My question is, however, since we have global intermingling of corporate structures, isn't it sort of tough to even discern the roots of a corporate structure?
@therealmedin do you really think Walmart cares about this? Really..cmooon...You have any idea how much a D&G bag really costs??? Ever been to Italy? Or a original Armani jacket? You should travel more...Walmart is selling what you guys agree to buy! They have a market in USA. I would like to tell you one, only one example, so you should have a straight idea about what I'm talking :
In France...a natural...and I mean a 100% natural egg...costs 3 EUROS. which is $ 4.09 (more or less)
How much is a hamburger there?
This is the reality my friend, but the fact is that 99% from the users here are from USA, and I can't answer all the questions...and debate this since you already have a way of life.
That is the truth but the life style is different from country to country. Think about this!
@vladis; dude not to sound like a jerk, but are you kidding me? A manufacturer selling things they know are on the cheap due to shit like child labor law infractions is almost worse than the manufacturers infracting the laws. By your reasoning it's 100% OK for a dope pusher to sell heroin to anyone, kids, teenagers, etc becaue he didn't make it, he is simply distributing it. Walmart has deep pockets and resources and if they were any where near as saintly as their commercials would lead you to believe, they'd investigate their manufacturers and boycott any manufacturer not willing to meet their standards. In this case however, Walmart has no standards and turns a blind eye so it appears the manufacturers are meeting the standards, no matter how low they are.
@Vladis does make a good point...there is a difference between manufacturing somethign and distributing something. Walmart sells what comes in their inventory...
Also, Walmart treats their American employees very poorly and fights unionization at all costs!
Guys...Is it me...Or you don't know the difference between a manufacturer and a distributor???
Walmart is a distributor!!! Not a manufacturer!
Neutrogena, Puma, Nike, Adidas...those are the manufacturer...
Walmart is a distributor for these companies! Blame them not the selling shop! You could buy the same thing from eBay...is eBay guilty because Adidas is using China to create products? Is the seller guilty?NO! Adidas is!
You can't blame the shop from which you are buying your daily bread, because the bread has a dead mouse in it...blame the company who makes it!
So I guess the most evil corporation there is are the ones who do bad things themselves... and so, here's I guess a better candidate to have the 'most-evil-corporation'-title: Chevron.
Chevron is a big company providing oil and gas to many countries around the world. They also provide other chemicals, and they have mining business too. So why do I think they are the worst company out there? Because there are numbers of issue regarding their waste materials which they just leave. We all know that chemical waste is very hazardous for everyone of us and of course to the environment as well. This big company also kills business of the smaller oil manufacturer.
So there, I know my research is a bit short but based on what I've read so far, Chevron is one of the worst company there is. They're even hailed as one of the evil companies on 2008 and one of the worst 100 companies listed on one site that I've found.
Here are some pictures showing the chemical waste that came from this company..
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Wow. That is absolutely insane. Comic book supervillain type stuff. And yet, despite everything, Bayer reports today that its net profit is going up. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704625004575088721183280104.html
Despicable.
Also known as the official corporate sponser of Dr. Josef Mengele, and whose chairman became such AFTER serving out his sentence for his involvement with said doctor's "experiments".
They're ruining our food supply with their genetically modified seeds, and they're suing honest farmers out of business.
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Although I am in favor of GM food I dislike Monsanto with a passion. They are indeed ruining our food supply.
Exactly. My first comment stated the same thing. If farmers won't use their seeds they keep them in lawsuits the honest farmers can't afford. And they keep the farmers they have forced into planting their products in constant debt so they have no choice but to keep following the Monsanto "program".
"Shell began oil production in the Niger Delta region of Nigeria in 1958 and has a long history of working closely with the Nigerian government to quell popular opposition to its presence in the region. At the request of Shell, and with Shell’s assistance and financing, Nigerian soldiers used deadly force and massive, brutal raids against the Ogoni people throughout the early 1990s to repress a growing movement against the oil company. The Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR), EarthRights International (ERI) and other human rights attorneys sued Shell for human rights violations against the Ogoni. The case (went) to trial on May 27, 2009 in New York City."
"For the Ogoni and the people of Nigeria, oil and oil companies have brought poverty, environmental devastastion and widespread, severe human rights abuses. Currently, almost 85 percent of oil revenues accrue to 1% of the population while, according to the African Development Bank, more than 70 percent of Nigerians live on less than US$1 per day. Ogoni is home to several environmental treasures, including the third-largest mangrove forest in the world and one of the largest surviving rainforests in Nigeria. Oil drilling by Shell and other oil companies has had a devastating impact on the region’s environment. Oil spills, gas flaring and deforestation have stripped the land of its environmental resources, destroying the subsistence farming- and fishing-based economy of the Ogoni."
"Shell continued its close relationship with the Nigerian military regime during the early 1990s. The oil company requested an increase in security and provided monetary and logistical support to the Nigerian police. Shell frequently called upon the Nigerian police for “security operations” that often amounted to raids and terror campaigns against the Ogoni. In response to growing Ogoni opposition, Shell and the Nigerian government coordinated a public relations campaign to discredit the movement, falsely attributing airplane hijackings, kidnapping and other acts of violence to Ken Saro-Wiwa and MOSOP. Shell was involved in the development of the strategy that resulted in the unlawful execution of the Ogoni Nine."
A three-man tribunal "denied the Ogoni Nine access to counsel, a fair trial, and the opportunity to appeal the decision. During the course of the trial they were tortured and mistreated, as were their relatives. The Ogoni Nine were convicted and were executed by hanging on November 10, 1995."
Shell settled the case, which had dragged on for 13 years, with the 10 plaintiffs before the trial for a paltry $15.5 million and Shell stated that the settlement was not an admission of guilt. Sadly, since the plaintiffs settled, a precedent was not set for human rights abuses perpetrated by a corporation under the US Alien Tort Claims Act. Clearly, a new international human rights mechanism must be developed to bring justice to offending multi-national corporations.
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Delighted to see these guys mentioned. They're currently trying to build a pipeline through an Irish village, despite no assurance that it is in any way safe. Dozens of people have served time / had criminal records inflicted upon them as a result of engaging in protests.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_to_Sea
On one hand I am an Apple fan, yet the locking down of the iPhone and the tie-in to AT&T is pretty evil. I love my iPhone, yet I find Google voice almost entirely impossible to live without. Until recently the only way to get GV on my iPhone was via jailbreaking. Once you jailbreak your phone you are SOL if you need support from Apple.
The second part of the 'evil' rating is the tie-in to AT&T, sure you can jailbreak an iPhone and use it on T-Mobile, but then you lose 3G along with support.
AT&T then tie you in to a $100 / month deal just to use a phone ?
What is this ? 1980 ?
The combination irks me.
But then there is the whole Foxconn thing, where workers are all treated like vermin just to turn out more and more shiny iToys for the 'west'. Where losing a prototype lead to the suicide of a worker.
If Foxconn where a country, Amnesty International would pushing for sanctions against them. as they are they are an Apple device manufacturer and seem to 'own the town'.
So, my vote goes to Apple.
They are like a legal crack dealer, they sell expensive shiny geek toys that require expensive long-term commitments. The devices are manufactured by slave labor in hell-hole factories and they do so while smiling.
Pure, pure, evil.
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When AT&T was the #1 and only company... They released phones that still function today for at home phones, and they have digital buttons. That was driven by cost, and EVERY SINGLE PERSON that had a phone... got it free from Ma Bell.
Would you like a free phone from a monopoly that was governed by the government, or one produced to be disposable in 2 years by a competitor?
@Keepontrying we didn't even have a phone because my dad refused to pay the rent. My dear grandmother was still paying rent on a phone last year when she died. It was a heavy, almost metal like rotary dial. I think it had to be at least 50 years old, I know it was much older than myself, 34. I am sure they charged her 5,000 or more for that phone.
My "free" phone came with a monthly equipment rental bill included as a separate line item on my phone bill!!
Was I the only one? I feel like a fool. Everyone got free phones and I got a rental.
Styrofoam
Napalm
Agent Orange
Dow Corning silicone breast implants
DBCP
Chlorpyrifos
Dioxin leaks
Rocky Flats Plant
responsible for 96 of the United States' worst Superfund toxic waste dumps
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M$Reason? I think we know it all, and this picture speaks for itself! That is one good reason why in Romania we don't eat at McDonalds.
@vladis
my brain, knowledge and the fact that I don't eat at Mcdonalds or drink Coca-cola
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yes...because the drug dealers from your neighborhood are just some punks, selling drugs to stupid people...to get a another joint! so...they are not a company and they just earn their money for one day...but tomorrow can bring new things....like JAIL!
you can always get a drug dealer in jail...however, I doubt you will get $100 from McDonalds because you have an obese child.
McDonalds is not even addicting like tobacco is.
You can't blame Mc'D for parents that give there kids burgers everyday and put them outside to play like we used to do at that age.
I find it ironic you put McDonalds as evil, but for another answer you say Phillip Morris isn't b/c they don't put a cigarette in your mouth. Doesn't that concept work here too? Or does McDonalds come to you're house and shove Big Macs down your throat?
So I should be more upset about the McDonalds in my neighborhood than the gang that sells drugs because:
1. the gang is simply the distributor (like Phillip Morris), not the manufacturer (like McDonalds); and
2. drug addiction is a mere habit (like smoking), not a need (like eating)
...right?
@eatthatpopcorn It's not addictive to everyone but there are many people in this world that have food addictions...they eat whatever they see, they are addicted to the greasy tastes of fast food...having worked in the fast food industry I have had people come to my window many times in the past and they admit they can't get enough of the food, they can't put it down, they can't step away...it's a mind set, but the mind can become addicted if the person isn't strong enough to realize good and bad...
Hope that makes sense...
Really? How many McDonalds restaurants you have in your town? How many banners? 3 were closed in my city...how many were closed there? Honestly...
I agree, people are addicted to lots of types of food including McDonalds. But Tobacco is a lot more physically addicting and harder to quit than McDonalds is!
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I disagree. Just like Phillip Morris and smoking, McDonald's doesn't make people buy their food and eat it. They choose to buy it and put it in their mouths. Obesity goes back on the individual and not the company not matter which company it is.
Ok...looks like the error is out..so...let's get this straight...
Phillip Morris is a distributor!
Between a need and a habit is a looong way. You need a cell phone...but it burns your brain, you need a computer but it damages your eyes, you need food...but it's not healthy.
But you need a cigar ONLY if you are a smoker! That is the major difference!
Why you need McDonalds? Because you have to eat! It is not a an enigma that McDonalds created an empire in USA...and suffered multiple defeats in Europe. If you can't admit that that is another problem. But from my point of view you suffered the most from this...money spent on unhealthy food and the obesity growing...
Maybe you should face the true facts...
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/jul2009/tc2009071_442911.htm
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between need and habit is a big difference. I can skip a cigar but not a meal. If you are on a highway and you are hungry you will eat at Mcdonalds, but you will definitely not stop the car to smoke. more to that, McDonalds is affecting underage people, cigarette's won't! you will never see a 6 year old smoking, but you will see it in a Mcdonald with a Happy Meal in hand.
I agree. Although this is yet another example of the choices people make....the temptation factor is great. Nothing like quick, easy and cheap food!! I would say if anything this company is 'evil' because they know exactly how to get to the customer, how to invade their wallet and how to leave them happy. This is a prime example of how people's strength is tested. McDonald's is a weakness, in my mind. I gave into it for many, many years and now that I have learned more about the company, how disgusting some fast food is, and how it makes me look....I avoid it like the plague, just smelling the burgers makes me sick half of the time. And a picture like this should really open a parents eyes! I soooo do NOT want my children to look like this...That's horrible and very sad...
Good answer @vladis!
@Vladis. Really? If your on the highway and are hungry you will eat at Mcdonalds? That is not a very good example for your answer. If I get hungry on the highway, hungry enough that I have to eat, there is more then just McDonalds to choose from. I could choose to eat somewhere on the healthy side, like Subway.
We still have the choice of where and what we eat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Morris_USA
They basically profit on a very unhealthy and potentially deadly habit - smoking cigarettes.
Since it is a proven FACT that cigarettes caused cancer and death, they have also been accused of doing nefarious things to get new "customers", i.e. using imaging/advertisements that would appeal to children.
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I agree and disagree...and agree with whichever post says there are contridicting views from the same people. I'll say this...any company who will knowingly put poison or some other form of "garbage" into a consumable good is, at it's heart, inherently evil. McDonalds, Philip Morris, Kraft, etc. It has become such a common practice that's it excepted by the majority of the population. Companies that are provide a tainted good, hide behind lawyers, marketing and phony propper up studies are the root of evil in capatalism. They've ruined what it meant to be capatalist, or in best terms, have altered the main goal of capatalism...which is to drive each other to better, BETTER, what is out there, not cut corners, cheapen products and simply make more money. You are supposed to make more money by creating good, not creating poop and dressing it up as a cute kitten.
i agree with @pmacdon1 and @spoon. the difference between cigarettes and food is you need food to survive. that's all i'm going to say. now i want both groups debate further on this issue. Go!
Hmm... @tealmyster I don't agree with this one: 'you will never see a 6 year old smoking' cause I already saw kids smoking. Kids copy what adults do. I've seen kids who smoke especially those who are not supervised by their parents.
Either need or habit, it's still the same. It's still the persons choice.
One more thing I'll add to this discussion - unhealthy food may taste good, but there is evidence that tobacco is PHYSICALLY ADDICTING; so in a sense the decision to smoke becomes less of a conscious one and more your body becoming dependent on it.
And @vladis, you have made the argument a few times that Philip Morris is a distributer, but I feel that is besides the point - there is no denying the fact that Philip Morris PROFITS on the sale of the cigarettes, whether they manufacture them or not. The original question was what company "creates the most aggregate human suffering in its relentless pursuit of profit". This is why I felt that Philip Morris was a good candidate, since they profit greatly from the sale of a harmful product that kills hundreds of thousands of people each year.
@fallen_angel21 I know I don't see a 6 year old smoking either...that was @vladis input....I think smokes are a temptation for young kids, but not that young...
I'm a smoker and I don't agree. Reason? Philip Morris doesn't put a cigar in my mouth, or takes the money from my pocket to buy a pack. I do! It is my personal choice...
Plus...Philip Morris is a distributor, not a manufacturer...
regards,
@vladis
@fallen_angel21 I would never fight with you.
However..I need an answer to this question...as far as I know in USA a pack is $4 (I'm not sure!!)
Here is $2. Please tell me why kids are not smoking here....under 16...
Wrong on this one @fallen_angel21 | ....drinking water is a need....surfing the web...is a habit.
@chr1sk10 as a distributor I have my profits too...but the buyer has the last world. see my point?
Haha how can you say Philip Morris isn't evil because they don't make you smoke, and then say that McDonalds is evil, even though they don't make you eat your food....
Both of you @vladis and @tealmyster give completely contradictory statements.
"the temptation factor is great. Nothing like quick, easy and cheap food!! I would say if anything this company is 'evil' because they know exactly how to get to the customer, how to invade their wallet and how to leave them happy." -tealmyster
How could this not also apply to cigarette companies, do cigarettes not have any temptation factor??
@tealmyster sad but there are still cases like that... besides, cigarettes arecheap that's why even young kids can buy them especially on countries that sell cigarettes without age requirement.
@vladis yea drinking water is a need... eating food is a need too. But what I'm saying is that it's still the person's choice. For instance, it's his/her choice if he/she'll drink water or whatever there is. It's the just the same on your habit/s: you're the one in control.
LoL Just to make things clear, we're not fighting okay? ^^ *big hug everyone*
Sorry...I have to agree with @Vladis. The choices people make in life are totally optional....I don't allow them to put the cigarette in my mouth. I put it there, light it, and puff one it 'cause I want to!
I understand, and totally respect your opinion. I can understand how people find cigarette companies evil, they were once hooked on smoking or they have lost a loved one because of smoking.
Hey now...don't pick on @vladis for his answer. Although it may seem contradictory he is entitled to his opinions.
The best way I can explain this is...
No, neither him or I see Phillip Morris as evil because we both smoke...so yes we may be judging off our opinions...however...he sees McDonald's as evil...because of the message they send out...the temptation they have towards certain people...yes those people may make the choice to put the food in their mouths...but he doesn't...
All in all an evil corporation doesn't force anyone to do anything. Everybody has a choice on whether they smoke, eat, take certain medications or sleep on a specific mattress or whatever...that's irrelevant. This question is not only based on fact but personal opinion....(at least I feel that way)
I respect those who feel that I have given a contradictory answer...yes Cigarettes are a HUGE temptation and it's one I give in to...however when I say I agree that McDonald's is an evil temptation I personally don't give in.
Hopefully that makes sense. I don't expect anyone to agree and understand from my comment...just wanted to try to clarify a little bit...or try to...from my opinion
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between need and habit is a big difference. I can skip a cigar but not a meal. If you are on a highway and you are hungry you will eat at Mcdonalds, but you will definitely not stop the car to smoke. more to that, McDonalds is affecting underage people, cigarette's won't! you will never see a 6 year old smoking, but you will see it in a Mcdonald with a Happy Meal in hand.
well...actually there are no rules. You can drink and smoke starting with 2 years old. No ID is asked...NEVER!
@vladis I'm confused on your statement here actually. You mentioned that McDonalds is the company you would pick for this question... yet McDonalds doesn't put food in your mouth or take money from your pocket to buy a burger... it is a personal choice to eat there. So how exactly can your opinion of these two companies differ if you are using that as your reasoning on why you don't agree with Phillip Morris as an answer?
@vladis lol *big hug*
maybe at your place, there are strict guidelines when it comes to purchasing cigarettes on minors. Some countries don't have those restrictions. But still, there'll come a time when they'll have a choice to smoke or not to smoke.
Oh no we aren't fighting! We are just having a discussion! :-D
Around here, I'm in Washington State....the rules have become very strict as far as underage smoking. Yeah people have their friends who will buy for them and some parents buy for their kids too...I'm curious how much smokes are in your area...here it's anywhere from 8-10 dollars a pack...sometimes you will find good deals...but rarely!
With McDonalds, which I can't stand by the way, the company is providing a product that can be misused, along with better alternatives. Their food can be eaten in moderation, and they sell salads etc.
But that really pales beside Philip Morris, which knowingly sells a purely poisonous product and nothing else. And, it has long tried to deceive its victims into thinking addiction was harmless.
Health care companies give incentives to their doctors for denying treatment and surgeries to patients in need, often labeling things as "experimental" to justify not covering it.
Health care companies are unethical and evil. In health care, money comes first, and people comes second.
For shame.
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Hmmm...I love your style....I was hoping more from a purple belt! Really... However, voting unhelpful, without a reason, it's a bad example on Mahalo. Just to let you know...you did not mentioned a company. Is your answer unhelpful? Answer this question, since you are a purple belt, and 5M$ will be tipped! Did you answer the question? Is your answer helpful or not??
@vladis
Yep, I just voted helpful as I'm hoping to see some more discussion of these HMOs, is that what they're called? ..... Hmm, now I'm confusing myself as to where I should vote helpful or not. I already have a little knowledge about this topic so I felt like I didn't need a source so much. Argh! Anyway, I'm much more picky and careful when I actually need to vote on who gets best answer... I guess with voting helpful, I'm just thanking people for bringing up a good thought or a thought where I feel very similar according to my understanding of the topic, etc. But now I feel mean to those I haven't given a helpful vote to. Oh dear. This is what happens when I start looking at discussions before I've had my first cup of tea for the day. hehe, sorry for any inconsistencies.
Although it's an interesting conundrum that many of these things bring up. Is it the corporation that is evil if it's the government system and lawmakers that allow them to do evil things? Of course, that doesn't apply when the acts of evil have been things done illegally, and have been correctly punished and addressed.
@vladis I think the use of an "unhelpful" vote on Mahalo is often a bit unclear. I do not understand your logic that McDonalds is to blame for certain things and Phillip Morris isn't. However, if I could go back I would simply not vote on your answer, and in the future I will focus more on voting answers that I feel are helpful (especially on opinion based questions).
I'm surprised to see that you voted the WalMart answer unhelpful. I guess we will both try to do better in the future.
The reason my answer was on the shorter side is that I was literally running out the door for an appointment, but I still felt the need to share my opinion about health care companies. I did not name a company because most all of them engage in these unethical practices. Although currently Blue Cross is trying to raise rates by 33% in California (for the sole purpose of making sure their executives make a tremendous amount of money). For this reason I believe health care companies are truly acting in evil ways by literally letting people die for the sole purpose of making an even larger profit than they are already making.
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And on top of all this, their squandering put the United States in a complete financial disarray, but still got help b/c of the problems that would arise if they weren't around.
Links to back me up and for you to read at your leisure:
Reports: AIG to pay out $100 million in bonuses - http://www.abc15.com/business/story/Reports-AIG-to-pay-out-100-million-in-b...
AIG execs at posh Phoenix resort after $85 billion bailout - http://www.abc15.com/content/news/special/story/AIG-execs-at-posh-Phoenix-r...
Blind Amputee Has to Fight AIG for New Plastic Leg, Wheelchair - http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=7346693&page=1
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M$It is a large conglomorate of companies that are very very rotten. Thye operate in scary places like Iran and do business with anyone who can help make shareholders a buck. "Such behavior, undertaken while Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, may have violated the Trading with the Enemy Act." Then they lawyered their way out of it. Countless examples of pure greedy behavior can easily be found.
They do oil, logging, tons of things that most would argue are just plain bad for the earth, though no doubt lucrative for "business". Tax bribes, shady payments, this is literally a bad gangster movie, but an actual "accredited" business.
Remember the Iraq war and how integral Cheney was towards that effort? Also remember how much money Haliburton made off of the war? 2.5 billion for a "Restore Iraqi Oil" contract.
I am literally getting sick to my stomach churning on this evilness presented here. Please add to this if you have any further details.
Thanks
my memory, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halliburton, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney, basic business sense
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My reasoning is simple. Monsanto, Haliburton, Exxon-Mobil, etc., are all great choices as evil corporations, but then it becomes a debate as to what is worse--manipulating and potentially destroying food, natural resources, energy sources. It's a debate that can't be won even if this is happening right in front of us because each of these things is so vital to us. It is almost like that old debate would you rather be starved to death or burn to death. It's lose-lose.
On the other hand, the reason that corporations like these (and many others) are allowed to continue doing what they do is because so few people really know what is happening. I posit that we are deliberately being kept in the dark, and the reason for this is because journalism--which should be exposing corporate excesses--is itself so corporatized. Rather than being a watchdog protecting individuals from corporate greed, mass media, whether it is newspapers or television or even the internet, is all too often serving as an attack dog, protecting those corporate interests and ensuring their hegemony.
News Corp is the second largest media conglomerate in the world. Only Disney is larger, but while Disney may have its own problems, News Corp is more dangerous because it controls the flow of information to the masses, hiding corporate excesses from the public and demonizing people that fight against those excesses. It is also an international corporation, with branches in Europe, Latin America, Australia, and Asia. It has redefined news into the propaganda arm of an increasingly corporatized world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_Corporation
http://gothamist.com/2003/05/28/rupert_murdoch_is_evil.php
http://www.prwatch.org/prwissues/1998Q2/foxbgh.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-kall/the-most-evil-corporation_b_178422.h...
http://current.com/items/88896353_microsoft-said-to-be-talking-with-news-co...
http://www.youtube.com/liberalviewer
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This company has its hands in too many cookie jars to mention and they are evil.
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What has this company done that is actually evil? They've bought other companies and own a lot of real estate. Sounds like a smart investment to me, but nothing illegal (or evil, for that matter.)
I think you need to re-evaluate your definition of evil.
Thanks for this contribution, just wanted to say. Because I didn't give you a helpful vote as I feel like I'd better not vote for an answer if I can't understand a source because the terminology is incomprehensible to me. Financial/business jargon's fault, not yours. :D
Sure some of the things they do are good, like genetically mutating, er, modifying fruits and vegetables to get more yield. I get that.
The thing that p****s me off the most is they are government subsidized. You know what that means, as tax payers we pay for them to poison us!
Second most is that they create harmful chemicals.
Thirdly, they destroy the ability of the farmer to utilize the same seed, year after year, essentially.
Forth, creating a monopoly.
Fifth, they have desimated the numerous species of potatoes, and corn
they are making plant varieties go extinct.
Sixth, they sue other farmers for infringment, when Monsanto can't keep their crops from cross fertilizing with neighboring farmers.
Yes, this is an anti Monsanto site, I apologize, I didn't have an unbiased source, there may be none.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/monlink.cfm
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That is, quite simply, disgusting. I remember the first time I heard about trying to create seeds that will create dependence on a company for food, removing the ability of nature to produce food timelessly and repeatedly.
This is still one of the most inconceivably despicable things I have ever heard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_use_restriction_technology
Google's own employees have said that their server area is like a black hole where information goes in but never comes out. Their servers are set to store every byte of everthing you do on any Google site or app for 75 years. 75 YEARS! We and our children will probably be dead by then. Most companies (Yahoo, MS, etc.) delete their info after 18 months. Now I can't document this, because I bookmarked the site where an ex employee wrote this online about 2 years ago, and the site is now gone. Go figure. But I read it, and I remembered it because WHEN I read it, I closed most of my Google accounts, stopped using Gmail and Google Docs. How handy is it that Google Docs automatically "saves" your information every few seconds? You don't have a choice as to whether you want your info stored on their computers, they just do it.
Google has cheated thousands of Adsense users out of millions of dollars by claiming their sites were spam, or porn, or whatever TOS violation they could come up with just as they reached the $100 payout. I know first hand about this. They sent me a check, and stopped payment on it, causing me to have bank fees which they refunded to my account, and later took back. It took me 6 months to get another check from them. There is literally nowhere on line you can communicate with them effectively, and snail mail is never answered. They finally gave me my adsense account back, but refused to let me have it under the same email address, so I had to open yet another Gmail account.
Google has been stopped by Greece and the EU from taking pictures with it's Google Street View cameras. The ones that they already have from the EU were set to be on for a year, but the EU has told them they can only keep them for six months.
Google has said openly that they will turn any information over the the U.S. government without a warrant, so if Homeland Security decides you are a threat, every single word you ever put onto a Google product will be in their hands. Just think about all the teen angst on Blogger that can someday be held against those kids in a government hearing to prove whatever it is that the government wants to prove.
Do I use Google now? Yes, but I don't put anything on it that I wouldn't tell the government and the world outright if asked. I still have blogger blogs, because I find that they are the best free service out there with the most features, but I'm careful what I write, because they save it while you're typing, and even deleting it from your blog doesn't delete it from the Google servers.
Every keystroke, every search, every word, every email, every personal detail you have disclosed using Google products is no longer yours. Yes, Boys and Girls, Google is evil...and they already know what I think of them, so I'm not worried about posting this.
Personal Experience
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My take is "he who controls the information, controls the world".
You stole the words right off my keyboard...
Wow. Site is glitching. Wouldn't let me edit, so here are some sources:
http://www.nydailynews.com/tech_guide/2009/03/13/2009-03-13_is_google_evil.html?page=1
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/02/01/steve_jobs_on_google/
http://google-watch.org/
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Lockheed Martin
50 Instances of Misconduct since 1995 (yikes! lots of court time!)
Paid $ 577.2m in fines and settlements
OR
Merck
10 Instances of misconduct since 1995 (meh)
Paid $5834.7m in fines and settlements (yeah.. as in 5 BILLION)
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"Ahh, I'm also gonna need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday, too...yeahhh"
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Employees are also not paid living wages, Its been on the news several times. Showers and no parking restrictions because the company knows they dont pay enough to live off of, so they offer a parking lot and shower. The awareness from the company and its unwillingness to do much about it is disgusting. On the same note as pay, employees aren't paid enough to care about the company-- teens in my area steal liqour without being stopped or questioned at all. Hard liqour is simply on the shelf with no precautions or security measures, I've witnessed highschool kids simply pick up a jigger of vodka and walk right out the exit past the greeter.
Walmart also has poor storage and care for its products, including toxic items. In 2006 children from a small town were developing diseases and dying, upon further investigation it was found that the local walmart's pesticides and other dangerous chemicals weren't being properly stored, and as a result were seeping into the water supply. Three children died from this 'storage problem'.
Walmart is frequently under the microscope on the news programs, talking about the latest walmart related disaster, and yet people have no choice but to continue shopping there.
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I apologise openly for my silliness. I am still learning to resist hilarious answers. (Unsuccessfully). I promise not to vote for funny non-serious answers if it comes to actually voting for best answer. :)
http://hubpages.com/hub/Are-You-A-Dag
On that note, I would have to say that the people at I.G. Farben would be my choice. They manufactured the poisonous gas Zyklon B for the Nazi in WWII.
Of course, I.G. Farben no longer exists as an entity, but there were a lot of mergers, joint ventures, buyouts, amalgamations, ownership changes, and paper shuffling as relates to I.G. Farben. It's quite a story.
Bayer (as in Aspirin), IG Farben, BASF (as in chemical products) - best known by me for their cassette tapes, Hoechst, from whom I buy printing press materials on a regular basis..... The list goes on.
Here's what I think .....
It is impossible for a corporation to be evil. Even though most governments of the world look at corporations as being citizens, paying taxes, and being civilly responsible for things, it is the PEOPLE in positions of power within those corporations that are responsible, and ultimately get themselves sent to jail. ie: Bernie Madoff and 150 years in the Crowbar Hotel.
So I understand the question and it's intent. I just thing that labelling a corporation itself as 'evil' leaves no room for the future. If this was the case, I wouldn't be buying aspirin, or using some particular chemicals and products, buying pressroom materials, etc. Heck - taken to the nth degree, I'd have to scrap my Heidelburg printing press and my beloved Volkswagen Jetta!
I would hope that any individuals responsible for crimes inside corporations have been, or are being prosecuted. I know that I.G. Farben executives were indicted at Nuremburg.
It is people (or boards of people) inside corporations who make bad decisions, not the corporations themselves.
Concentration Camp and Zyklon B - dunno the accuracy of this, but interesting
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread349586/pg1
IG Farben history:
http://www.cephas-library.com/health/health_progesterone_abortions.html
Bayer:
http://archive.corporatewatch.org/genetics/bayer.htm
Wikipedia - Chronology of IG Farben:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IG_Farben
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M$Below is a link to a list of Consumer Product Safety Commission Safety "Toy Hazard Recalls."
I'm the father of a kindergartner. There is no way I could possibly know all of this about toys that relatives pass down or give to him. I'm hesitant to even give him my own die-cast car collection from the 1970s.
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/category/toy.html
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Today one of their cronies KBR (a division of Halliburton) along with the govt are participating in establishing infrastructure and services to the internment camps (national concentration camps) which are being erected all over the US.
They are so evil in the light of day, that it makes me shutter to think about all of their underworld indiscretions.
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M$It is believed that the Bilderberg group are working towards a New World Order. In other words, global enslavery. Everyone on this planet will be working under one government.
Some people like this idea of one government. Why? because it means world peace. The government is not going to go to war with itself. However, if we are all operating under one government, and we dont like our governments policies, who would we turn to? We will have no one. This sets the government up for basically doing anything that it wants. Once we allow a new world order, or one world government to happen, we basically give up all our freedoms and choices. We will have to do what they tell us to do, and thats it. We will basically be living as communists.
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It does not appear that there is any evidence to support your claim. Just because someone says they are working on a new world order does not mean it is so. As for the closed meetings, thousands of closed meetings are conducted all over the world every day. Are those meetings working on a New World Order? Doubtful.
In my opinion, the Bilderberg Group is more akin to a gentlemen's club than a group determined to bring a New World Order. It is much more likely they talk about how much ass they got last night than a global government.
Also, they are not a corporation.
ianx, it is naivete just such as yours that allows people like the Bilderberg group to control us. We are like frogs being boiled slowly in water. We refuse to see what we refuse to believe. You need to watch some David Icke videos.
they make money running prisons
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Argument = RX Drugs Harm alot of People!
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My post seems to have disappeared. Definitely Monsanto. If farmers won't use their genetically modified seed they force them out of business. They control most of our food supply without consideration for what harm it may cause. Simply from greed. If anyone researches it they'll find how pervasive this company has become in our lives. It's truly scary.
Planned Parenthood also pushes for detailed sex education to young children as young as 10 years old and without the parents of those children in school even knowing about it. They cause death and the spread of disease and are making a ton of money doing it.
Pure evil.
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Obviously you have never thought of the implications of having more children, that people cannot afford to have. Or more children than the earth can support.
Do you LIKE watching the 5 minute commericals with information that says: Support, Lisa, or Jamie, or Julian. His mother does not make enough money to buy him/her milk. Your $1 a month contribution will go to education, and you'll receive monthly updates on how the child you sponsor is doing.
Did you ever think of the implications of Africans having twice as many kids as they have. They can't feed the ones they HAVE! WHY would you even CONSIDER making it harder on them, by having more children?
Give me one example of PP shoving birth control pills down womens' throats. ONE example. Give me another example of women being forced to have abortions by PP. Women who go to PP go there willingly.
Spread disease? You'll have to tell me about this one, and give me a couple of unbiased references while you're at it.
Giving women the choice is a good thing. I don't know if you know this or not, but women in Africa, China, and India don't always have a choice. Often they are raped, impregnated and abused by men. Should they have children by these men just because it is what they are supposed to do? I say no, they should have a choice, if it is the only choice they can make.
Conservative propaganda aside, the original question asked about companies whose profit causes human suffering. Since Planned Parenthood is a certified NON-PROFIT organization, it does not really belong in this discussion.
Cases of rape and incest contribute to LESS THAN 1% of the number of abortions worldwide. Don't even try to use these cases as justification for the procedure as a whole. Do I like watching commercials that say kids are starving? No, of course not. In more than 99% of cases (obviously excluding rape and incest), if you cannot afford to have more children then stop having sex with everybody!!! If you're married and cannot afford another child, there are methods such as Natural Family Planning that have been proven to be able to prevent pregnancy MORE THAN 99.6% OF THE TIME, higher than the chances of a condom preventing pregnancy.
Pregnancy is the result of an action taken. If you want to mess around, there are consequences. You already MADE your choice and now you have to deal with the consequences of irresponsibility. Victims of rape and incest obviously did not choose that but keep in mind that they are a VERY MINOR percentage of the women who kill their unborn children.
Women go to PP willingly, I agree. They are also lied to by PP about their pregnancy. Why do you think PP is so much against letting women see ultrasounds of their baby before they get an abortion? They tell women that it is nothing but a few cells and tissues CONTRARY to what any introductory biology textbook in the WORLD will tell you. At conception there is a life of the species homo sapien that is not the mother and it is not the father, but a separate being. PP does not tell women these things.
Diseases? Condoms do not prevent the spread of all STD's, let's be honest. There are several diseases that cannot be prevented by using them. Also, there have been numerous studies that have linked abortion and contraceptive pills to increased chances of breast cancer. If you want to talk about the rights of women for "choice", how about their right to information and their own HEALTH.
PP encourages women who have unborn babies who will be born with medical retardation or other disabilities to abort their child to save them from the suffering they have in their life. This is no different than what was done in Nazi Germany - exterminating the disabled for the "greater good".
So, in MORE THAN 99% of the cases, pregnancy is due to irresponsible choices already made. If you can't afford a child, then ACT RESPONSIBLY. It's time to grow up and make smarter decisions.
Then I take it you see the points I made and do not have a response to them. Have a good day.
This is in response to Commentor 2, which I think is also Answerer 29.
“You already MADE your choice and now you have to deal with the consequences of irresponsibility.”, there are more ways to deal with consequences than to have the child. First off the delivery in a hospital will run you $5-10,000. Clothes, health insurance, food, and supplies will cost MUCH more than that. A large chunk of the population that goes to PP are under 18, often still in high school, and have no income. Since they can’t afford a $5K+ delivery, they’ll have to go onto welfare, and do forget medicare/medicaid to get health insurance for themselves and the baby. Guess who pays for that? People who work, and are taxed.
Does it matter that rape/incest only contributes “to LESS THAN 1% of the number of abortions worldwide”? It doesn’t to me. I am a product of rape. The first time my mom was raped that is. It happened three times in her life, so far. Having me, and no husband, made life so hard for my mom, especially from our culture. She was looked down upon her entire life. And since there was no other male relative or a male to claim her, she was raped again. Two other times. If PP was there in Thailand (minority populations, as you call it), she would learned about sex, and how to protect herself and not suffered such hardships. Granted I would not exist, but her life would have been easier, and she would not have gone on welfare. My entire life, growing up, I was afraid of being raped by my own race, b/c I had no father to protect me. I was lucky and never suffered such abuse.
“Why do you think PP is so much against letting women see ultrasounds of their baby before they get an abortion?” – because women who go in and see that there is an actual something growing inside of her get attached to it. PP isn’t the only one that does this.
“Condoms do not prevent the spread of all STDs,”, this statement is great. It’s almost as good as “Guns kill people”, nope, people kill people and people spread this disease. STDs are spread by infected area touching. This area could be inner thighs, or even orally. Unfortunately, often there may be no signs to show that the STD is active.
“how about their right to information and their own HEALTH.” – information exists in other places besides the doctors office, or in this case PP.
“PP encourages women…”, again they ‘encourage’ not force. Don’t equate them to the Nazi’s, just because their philosophy is similar. PP, doesn’t force women to get a hysterectomy, or sterilization. They merely ‘encourage’ them.
The only thing I agree with you in your entire statement is this “If you can't afford a child, then ACT RESPONSIBLY.”
I've lived within 5 miles of Monsanto's World Headquarters for ten years and nothing's happened to me yet--and I haven't seen any 2-headed kids walking around anywhere.
Not necessarily defending, just observing. See my entry below on Toy manufacturers..
Yes! Between Agent Orange and the elimination of farmers, Monsanto wins hands down.
now...that is one good answer! Thanks for that @kareul ! Seriously! Thank you!
Just wanted to say that this is an example of why I love Mahalo (as opposed to a few of the other questions posted by your superiors lately).
Not only was it a great question, but it has brought out some of the best from the people that make Mahalo tick, namely it's regular users.
There is nothing more I love than to see a question like this where I have no more to add because others have said all there is to say.
They make plants that die completely, no way of storing seed for next year, just so you have to buy their seed again and again....this is not promoting good farming, its pillage of the worse kind....
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,618913,00.html
How about the US Government folks? They tax you in every way they can and tell you it's good for you. Have some more Kool-Aide kiddies..$3.00 a gallon gas of which Approx 35 % is taxes + the income tax you pay for a way to large government that gives themselves a cost of living expense over the average increase and gives bogus excuses on why or just slides them through without any reason at al.
If this were true, then their would be increasing rates of cancer, not decreasing.
@tracebooks said: "We can also thank them for Aspartame"
...which is the other technical name Monsanto gives to Nutrasweet. There it goes your reality check at breakfast time!
Oh holy cow. I had been wondering if someone would do Fox... but if you watch the last minute of the vid, you reach the impasse that distorting the news is not actually against the law, or wasn't when this courtcase happened.
*lies down in corner and assumes fetal position*
Monsanto even goes and prosecutes subsistance farmers in third world countries who have traditionally saved seed (because they can't afford to buy new seed). When Monsanto's seed ends up crossing with their seed via birds, insects or pollen on the wind, not only do the farmers then end up with seed that won't reproduce, which puts the farmers in a dire situation, Monsanto then goes and sues them, usually ending up with their land as well. If a country did this there would be war.
It's amazing that Monsanto's seed is banned in most First World countries...except in the U.S., where Monsanto is based. And then there are Monsanto-friendly cronyism in the Federal Government of the U.S., including the F.D.A.
We can also thank them for Aspartame, which is likewise banned in a number of countries, but in everything here.
I'm convinced if the human race died out, Monsanto will have had a major hand in it.