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In Limit, if you are playing against legitimately tight players (IE, they see the flop in holdem under 18% or so of the time), just walk away. - A table with 10 very good limit players will probably on average see 2 people to the flop, a lot of hands will end before the flop, and over 4 people to the flop will be a rarity. In a casino, the rake will murder you when you do win as the pots will all be small.
A rule of thumb I have for low limit limit poker is to never bluff. The tables are so loose that bluffing sucks. But if you happen across a table that is really tight, then you can add bluffs in to the mix, particularly preflop - for instance, if you're on the button, everyone folds to you, raising preflop for a shot to take the blinds is invariably a good move. But bluffing in limit is generally very weak and rarely pushes people off of anything.
If the table is averaging 3+ people to the flop, it is not a tight table.
If the table is averaging 4+ people to the flop, it's a loose table and will be very, very profitable as, 40% of the hands in limit holdem aren't profitable.
No limit isn't my game, it's another beast entirely, but at a tight no limit table, you can play more agressively and push people off of pots. In limit, you'll find that the best players are inevitably very tight, and very agressive when they have a good hand.
Of all the poker books I have, this is probably my favorite one. It's designed for low limit tables which are almost invariably loose:
http://www.twoplustwo.com/smallstakes.html
This book is also very good, and will guide you to play a tighter game intended for playing with people that know a bit about poker:
http://www.twoplustwo.com/holdem.html
You should note in the sample on this book, he advises folding with A8 suited with the pair of aces when bet to at an early position on the flop - this is something you'd never do in a loose game, but in a tight game like this, plays like this are the difference between the players that break even or lose a bit of money and the ones that win.
Winning limit poker is really about consistently playing the odds, only throwing in a minimal number of non-optimal twists to keep people from guessing.
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If the players enjoy the female anatomy and are drunk to boot, you can read their body language and try to determine when they're bluffing (e.g. if they are they might keep their eyes at your chest, whereas if they're nervous about their hand they might avoid eye contact and try to look calm and cool).
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You strategically raise as often as is reasonable. Preflop if you don't see any raises or are far from the button, always raise. If you are close to the button and have any semi-decent hand(suited connectors included), raise.
After the flop, you raise. It doesn't matter what you have at this point, but don't go too overboard on the raise lest you become pot-committed or force someone else to become pot-committed. Then you risk the other person going all in and that won't work well for you if you don't have anything.
If you end up playing against 1 or 2 opponents, weigh the possible hands available. If they have plenty of "street" money, then throw formidable raises at them, so that they would have a very difficult time calling you without the nuts, but not so much to get you pot-comitted(I don't believe you, as a player, are ever pot-comitted ;)).
If someone is hanging on to your big raises and you don't come up with a hand, feel free to back down. But, if you have the option to rebuy, sometimes its worth it to really push it and go all in against someone calling you down. Either they'll fold and you'll boost your confidence, dominance and chipstack. Or you'll lose out, but not reveal your cards. That way you don't lose any dominance, just a few chips and you can come back in swinging again.
Don't ever play tight against tight players unless you are definitively out-chipstacked or if some other players are getting particularly loose. If they're loose, you stay tight for a bit, because they're either playing those same moves from above, or they have a string of legitimately good hands.
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December 21, 2008 01:31 AM
What's best way to play poker against a table filled with tight players?
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| December 21, 2008 01:52 AM |
In Limit, if you are playing against legitimately tight players (IE, they see the flop in holdem under 18% or so of the time), just walk away. - A table with 10 very good limit players will probably on average see 2 people to the flop, a lot of hands will end before the flop, and over 4 people to the flop will be a rarity. In a casino, the rake will murder you when you do win as the pots will all be small.
A rule of thumb I have for low limit limit poker is to never bluff. The tables are so loose that bluffing sucks. But if you happen across a table that is really tight, then you can add bluffs in to the mix, particularly preflop - for instance, if you're on the button, everyone folds to you, raising preflop for a shot to take the blinds is invariably a good move. But bluffing in limit is generally very weak and rarely pushes people off of anything.
If the table is averaging 3+ people to the flop, it is not a tight table.
If the table is averaging 4+ people to the flop, it's a loose table and will be very, very profitable as, 40% of the hands in limit holdem aren't profitable.
No limit isn't my game, it's another beast entirely, but at a tight no limit table, you can play more agressively and push people off of pots. In limit, you'll find that the best players are inevitably very tight, and very agressive when they have a good hand.
Of all the poker books I have, this is probably my favorite one. It's designed for low limit tables which are almost invariably loose:
http://www.twoplustwo.com/smallstakes.html
This book is also very good, and will guide you to play a tighter game intended for playing with people that know a bit about poker:
http://www.twoplustwo.com/holdem.html
You should note in the sample on this book, he advises folding with A8 suited with the pair of aces when bet to at an early position on the flop - this is something you'd never do in a loose game, but in a tight game like this, plays like this are the difference between the players that break even or lose a bit of money and the ones that win.
Winning limit poker is really about consistently playing the odds, only throwing in a minimal number of non-optimal twists to keep people from guessing.
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December 21, 2008 01:33 AM
You play tight against loose players and loose against tight players. If they are going to let you move them off pots... Let them. The extra bonus on this is that they will see you as being loose and they will eventually play back at you when you have a real good hand.
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December 21, 2008 01:36 AM
I would play solid aggressive poker. As you win hands, you'll prove to be the most aggressive player at the table and you'll get the blinds as they fold. Do no not bluff a tight table too often, or they will get you.
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http://www.tightpoker.com/player_profiles.html
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December 21, 2008 02:15 AM
If you're a woman with impressive breasts, wear something with a plunging neckline. Seriously. If the players enjoy the female anatomy and are drunk to boot, you can read their body language and try to determine when they're bluffing (e.g. if they are they might keep their eyes at your chest, whereas if they're nervous about their hand they might avoid eye contact and try to look calm and cool).
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December 21, 2008 02:45 AM
If you know that the rest of the table is tight, the best thing to do is to play loose. These players will respect your raises until they see your hole cards and you also have a good idea of what hole cards they have because of their tight play pattern.
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www.cardplayer.com
www.fulltiltpoker.com
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December 21, 2008 09:14 AM
One of two great strategies for playing against tight players. You strategically raise as often as is reasonable. Preflop if you don't see any raises or are far from the button, always raise. If you are close to the button and have any semi-decent hand(suited connectors included), raise.
After the flop, you raise. It doesn't matter what you have at this point, but don't go too overboard on the raise lest you become pot-committed or force someone else to become pot-committed. Then you risk the other person going all in and that won't work well for you if you don't have anything.
If you end up playing against 1 or 2 opponents, weigh the possible hands available. If they have plenty of "street" money, then throw formidable raises at them, so that they would have a very difficult time calling you without the nuts, but not so much to get you pot-comitted(I don't believe you, as a player, are ever pot-comitted ;)).
If someone is hanging on to your big raises and you don't come up with a hand, feel free to back down. But, if you have the option to rebuy, sometimes its worth it to really push it and go all in against someone calling you down. Either they'll fold and you'll boost your confidence, dominance and chipstack. Or you'll lose out, but not reveal your cards. That way you don't lose any dominance, just a few chips and you can come back in swinging again.
Don't ever play tight against tight players unless you are definitively out-chipstacked or if some other players are getting particularly loose. If they're loose, you stay tight for a bit, because they're either playing those same moves from above, or they have a string of legitimately good hands.
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