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M$2 January 01, 2009 02:20 PM

Do you think there is a connection between Fantasy films/literature and war?

Some have theorized that there is a direct connection between fantasy films and literature and war due to an inherent need to escape from the pressure and fear incurred by the situation. Do you agree with this? Whether you agree or disagree please offer a detailed explanation backed up with factual examples.
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January 01, 2009 03:08 PM
There is certainly a connection between fantasy film/literature and the need to escape, often much of this literature is classified as escapist. However I do not believe that war has any particularly special connection to its creation or consumption, other than being a time of stress.

In all the Holocaust literature I have read and taught (Night, I Survived Rombuli, I Survived: The Cold Crematorium, etc) there has never been mention of any individual, whether absolutely documented or fictionalized, seeking out fantasy literature particularly, assuming they had any option of doing so. Nor did any individual refer to the creation of fantasies particularly, other than imagined release, freedom, or end to war even if they were not captive.

It is a natural defense mechanism to avoid any stressful situation. It is likewise a part of human nature, even when not defending the psyche, to focus on pleasurable rather than painful experiences. Humans, along with all members at least of the kingdom animalia, are pleasure-seeking, pain-avoiding organisms. This is a survival tool grounded at the genetic behavior level, and humans have simply refined it to the point that pleasure acquisition (or pain avoidance) can be had through abstract means such as storytelling.

It also bears mention that the epics of earlier ages, Gilgamesh, the Illiad, Odyssey, Beowulf, and similar are specifically about war, combat, and adversity. Even the non-warring epics, such as Dante's Inferno, tend to focus on dark themes, things one would probably wish not to dwell on, yet they were crafted as literature for consumption. The notion here is that war may be, as all stressors, something to escape from, but it enjoys no special status of escape, since it, as many other negative topics, is actively depicted.

Much highly-escapist literature (fantastical and otherwise) comes out of periods of peace, that still incur much stress. Superman, perhaps the most popularly known and read comic book character, was created in 1932, during the Great Depression, but during the interim of peace between World Wars I and II. Superman might have some moralizing tendencies, as did most comics of the day, but they were stories for youths to fantasize about, revel in, and not necessarily take too seriously. That is a good working definition for escapist literature, and those stories were indeed that, even though they were created outside a time of war. The stressor then (perhaps as now, though we also have wars ongoing) was economic with unemployment topping 25%, and this bears up earlier assertions that escape is about the avoidance of unpleasantness or the seeking of pleasure, not specifically about the avoidance of the horrors of war.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman
Epics: Illiad, Oddyssey, Gilgamesh, Infero, Beowulf, etc
High school level (and beyond) behaviorist theory in various textbooks, documentaries, etc.

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• There were a couple of really good answers to my question, and some that just didn't seem to make much sense to me at all. To clear up any misconception, what I meant was that it seemed like the desire for escape through fantasy increased during war or other hard times.


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January 01, 2009 03:14 PM
Tolkien started writing the grandaddy of all fantasies, the whole fictional saga containing The Lord of the Rings, in the trenches of Europe during World War I. So in his case, it was true. But the films of his Trilogy were begun between the two Gulf Wars, even though the first of them spent most of its run during the second Gulf War.

So that's one concrete example. But Tolkien's friend Lewis wrote most of his Narnia series after WWII was finished, before the Cold War really...froze up, when most of Europe still considered Russia something of an ally.

In fact, there have been very few periods in history where most of the world was at peace. Don Quixote, the first novel, which contained some fantasy elements, was written during a time period where Spain was at war with both France and England, and had just lost a high number of inhabitants to a plague. Sure, Spain was a world power at the time and its economy was bolstered by regular shipments of silver and gold from The New World. But it still was not what most would call a peaceful time.

I bring up Don Quixote because it was the first work that could be called a novel in the modern sense. Before that, there may have been stories/legends containing fantasy elements (like Dante's Inferno) but I don't know if you're counting those kinds of things in your question.

So I do think that, as you stated, there is a definite need for an outlet in times of fear and duress. For some that could take the need to write or read fantasy literature. Hollywood's most optimistic films came during the Depression and World War II (although special effects didn't catch up for another 3 decades).

But since it's been rare for the world to be at peace, so there are very few times that your question would not be true. So it is easy to find a direct link. It would be more difficult to find examples of true peacetime where fantasy proliferated.

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January 01, 2009 07:14 PM
In the sense I think you mean, there is absolutely no connection between fantasy films/literature and war. I don't think George W Bush or Barack Obama is more or less likely to launch a strike against Iran after watching Lord of the Rings.

I think there is a connection between things developed in things like James Bond movies and weapons developed by the United States. For example, explosive pens and everything else, the simple pager, bug detector, etc.

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January 01, 2009 10:03 PM
My opinion: people just need to shut up.

People read fantasy literature and watch fantasy films because they like them and think that they are interesting, not because they are actually closet psychopaths.

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