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I think there is both good and bad that can come with sequels.
It is usually obvious when a sequel is used for the simple reason that it made money in the box office and the producers and companies want another stab at easy money.
Entertainment Weekly says there has to be a 2, a III, or the word 'Boogaloo' in the title for it to suck, but I digress.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1169126,00.html
There have also been great sequels, but the kicker to these has to be the fact that it's a good solid and classic story line... then add a twist that wasn't used before, and a fresh new angle that was not seen before.
Examples: Great Expectations (1998), or Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119223/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103874/
This goes to show that you can always take a classic tale and add a twist to it. Cluless was just modern day version of Jane Austin's Emma.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697/
So my argument would be that if we all adhere to great artistic rules and challenges, all sequels could be great from this moment on.
But let's come back to reality.
People see what works and want to cut and paste another duplicate and make money on it.
It doesn't work on Mahalo, but for some reason it works in Hollywood (sometimes).
There will always be 'good' and 'bad' in the sequel market since film, TV, and games are an art form and within that art form, there's always someone who'll buy a ticket.
Sequels really are in the eye of the ticket holder.
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I thought the Alien series with Sigourney Weaver held up pretty good. But I'm hard pressed to think of others.
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1. X-Men - $300 Million, X2 - $400 Million
2. Spider-man - $821 Million, Spider-man 2 - $783 Million
3. The Terminator – $78 Million, Terminator 2 - $520 Million, Terminator 3 - $433 Million
4. Shrek - $484 Million, Shrek 2 - $920 Million, Shrek the Third - $799 Million
5. Die Hard - $141 Million, Die Hard 2 - $240 Million, Die Hard With a Vengeance - $366 Million, Live Free or Die Hard - $383 Million
6. Legally Blonde - $142 Million, Legally Blonde 2 - $125 Million
7. Madagascar - $533 Million, Madagascar 2: $603 Million
Most of the sequels I listed are actually pretty good, but the Legally Blonde sequel and the third installments (Terminator 3, Shrek the Third and Die Hard with a Vengeance) are all far worse than previous movies. Yet they all did very well (some extremely well) at the box office. I also included the Madagascar and Shrek examples because while Pixar is mostly focused on new content, Dreamworks Animation is using sequels as a stated part of their strategy (they call it “franchise-building) – because while it may not always be the most artistic solution, it often makes the most business sense.
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www.boxofficemojo.com,
http://www.dreamworksanimation.com/2008AR/docs/DWA2008AR-ShareholderLetter....
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The first thing that crosses my mind is the Chrono series of video-games on Super Nintendo system and PlayStation. I sure would like to see a true ending to that series as well as to the series of books written by Robert Jordan - The Wheel of Time.
Someone might call the creation of sequels "money milking" but if there's a huge fan base demanding the sequels, a good story to build the sequel on it then yes, I'm all for it.
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The first or the original movie always seemed better and why, because people (viewers) are expecting more from the producers, directors, actors and each staff. They've seen the first one, now they must beat it with what they're going to show now.
If they wouldn't do better than the first or the original one, people would just want original or new films rather than sequel or remakes...
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August 24, 2009 07:54 PM
Do you like the ideas of sequels and remakes?
Movies, videogames, and even television shows often create sequels or do remakes instead of working on original Intellectual Properties (IPs).
Do you wish that artists would spend more time on original IPs, or are you okay with the vast amount of sequels that we see?
Pixar is a great example of a company that generally does not create sequels. Toy Story 1, 2, and now 3 are pretty much the exceptions. While they've been known to create mostly high quality material, would their time be more productive spent on a new movie?
Maybe you don't like the idea of sequels but can think of a few exceptions?
Do you wish that artists would spend more time on original IPs, or are you okay with the vast amount of sequels that we see?
Pixar is a great example of a company that generally does not create sequels. Toy Story 1, 2, and now 3 are pretty much the exceptions. While they've been known to create mostly high quality material, would their time be more productive spent on a new movie?
Maybe you don't like the idea of sequels but can think of a few exceptions?
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| August 24, 2009 08:37 PM |
It is usually obvious when a sequel is used for the simple reason that it made money in the box office and the producers and companies want another stab at easy money.
Entertainment Weekly says there has to be a 2, a III, or the word 'Boogaloo' in the title for it to suck, but I digress.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1169126,00.html
There have also been great sequels, but the kicker to these has to be the fact that it's a good solid and classic story line... then add a twist that wasn't used before, and a fresh new angle that was not seen before.
Examples: Great Expectations (1998), or Francis Ford Coppola's Dracula.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119223/
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103874/
This goes to show that you can always take a classic tale and add a twist to it. Cluless was just modern day version of Jane Austin's Emma.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112697/
So my argument would be that if we all adhere to great artistic rules and challenges, all sequels could be great from this moment on.
But let's come back to reality.
People see what works and want to cut and paste another duplicate and make money on it.
It doesn't work on Mahalo, but for some reason it works in Hollywood (sometimes).
There will always be 'good' and 'bad' in the sequel market since film, TV, and games are an art form and within that art form, there's always someone who'll buy a ticket.
Sequels really are in the eye of the ticket holder.
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August 24, 2009 08:11 PM
I would prefer that artists work more on original Intellectual Properties. Generally, the sequels and remakes are inferior to the original. I thought the Alien series with Sigourney Weaver held up pretty good. But I'm hard pressed to think of others.
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August 24, 2009 09:00 PM
The Dark Knight was a sequel to Batman Begins, and Uncharted 2 isn't out yet, and it's hard to say how good it will be (though it does look promising).
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August 24, 2009 09:20 PM
There are a few sequels that are worthwhile and add to the comprehensive story, but I agree that a great original film is certainly more of an achievement. The problem is that while it may be more impressive or even interesting, sequels are much less risky to make (even at a higher cost). Sequels are able to play off the reputation of the original movie and even if they are not as good, they often do as well or better than the original. Take a look at some of these box office gross figures from a random assortment of sequels (from Boxofficemojo.com) 1. X-Men - $300 Million, X2 - $400 Million
2. Spider-man - $821 Million, Spider-man 2 - $783 Million
3. The Terminator – $78 Million, Terminator 2 - $520 Million, Terminator 3 - $433 Million
4. Shrek - $484 Million, Shrek 2 - $920 Million, Shrek the Third - $799 Million
5. Die Hard - $141 Million, Die Hard 2 - $240 Million, Die Hard With a Vengeance - $366 Million, Live Free or Die Hard - $383 Million
6. Legally Blonde - $142 Million, Legally Blonde 2 - $125 Million
7. Madagascar - $533 Million, Madagascar 2: $603 Million
Most of the sequels I listed are actually pretty good, but the Legally Blonde sequel and the third installments (Terminator 3, Shrek the Third and Die Hard with a Vengeance) are all far worse than previous movies. Yet they all did very well (some extremely well) at the box office. I also included the Madagascar and Shrek examples because while Pixar is mostly focused on new content, Dreamworks Animation is using sequels as a stated part of their strategy (they call it “franchise-building) – because while it may not always be the most artistic solution, it often makes the most business sense.
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www.boxofficemojo.com,
http://www.dreamworksanimation.com/2008AR/docs/DWA2008AR-ShareholderLetter....
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August 24, 2009 09:28 PM
Sure I do. And I'm not thinking of only movies but of video games, books and similar too. Sometimes, sequels do make the things worse and ruin the actual series but wouldn't you want for your favorite story, video game etc. to have a continued plot, to meet the same-old fun characters once again? I sure would. The first thing that crosses my mind is the Chrono series of video-games on Super Nintendo system and PlayStation. I sure would like to see a true ending to that series as well as to the series of books written by Robert Jordan - The Wheel of Time.
Someone might call the creation of sequels "money milking" but if there's a huge fan base demanding the sequels, a good story to build the sequel on it then yes, I'm all for it.
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August 24, 2009 09:57 PM
It depends. If they would make a sequel or they would remake previous successful movies they should make it better than the previous movie. Usual sequels and remakes fails at this. The first or the original movie always seemed better and why, because people (viewers) are expecting more from the producers, directors, actors and each staff. They've seen the first one, now they must beat it with what they're going to show now.
If they wouldn't do better than the first or the original one, people would just want original or new films rather than sequel or remakes...
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August 25, 2009 12:40 PM
it depends on the subject matter. sequels such as harry potter, lord of the rings, star wars, etc are great because you know they were going to be sequels from the beginning. however movies that have 2's and 3's such as i know what you did last summer, scream, saw, etc, seem to lose their initial impression. it makes me wonder if hollywood is really running out of ideas. hope this helps
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August 25, 2009 02:10 PM
Remankes are not even remotely as good as the originals. Sequesl are ghastly with the ecxeption of James Bond and Indiana Jones movies which were concieved of as being episodic.
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August 26, 2009 06:23 AM
well,, it depends... sometimes sequels r so boring..it should be upto some limit.. nt like X-Men..Wolverine,, the biggest flop yet...
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Most of my examples are remakes, and now that I think about it... the big difference between remakes and sequels is the original content, right?
(I also agree with @andromeda that it's hard to find another sequel machine that even compares to the likes of Alien)