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If pronunciation is an issue, then probably another valid pronuciation is Mahaloan, as in Maw-Haw-Low-un. I studied a bit of linguistics as a sideline in university, and that's what my prof taught us to guess for words like that.
And... I see that you've already said that that's what you'd feel more natural with.
In any case... and I'm sorry it bugs you so much, but... *why* does it bug you? Most communication here takes place via the written word, so pronunciation doesn't really matter.
Think of it being like classical greek from the Athenian era, wherein nobody really knows how the natives pronounced the words at the time, such that profs are usually careful to point out that classical greek is not spoken... it's read.
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African, Alien, Algerian, Amazonian, American, Angolan, Armenian, Australian, Austrian, Belgian, Bosnian, Brazilian, Bulgarian, Californian, Cambodian, Canadian, Chilean, Columbian, Companion, Costa Rican, Croatian, Cuban, Ecuadorian, Egyptian, Estonian, Ethiopian, German, Georgian, Guinean, Haitian, Hungarian, Indian, Indonesian, Italian, Iranian, Jamaican, Kenyan, Korean, Laotian, Latvianm, Liberian, Libyan, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malaysian, Martian, Mauritanian, Mexican, Micronesian, Mongolian, Moroccan, Namibian, Nigerian, Panamanian, Peruvian, Republican, Romanian, Russian, Saharan, Saint Lucian, San Franciscan, Saudi Arabian, Slovenian, Somalian, Samoan, Singaporean, Sinhalese, Tanzanian, Tongan, Tunisian, Ugandan, Ukrainian, Venezuelan, Zairean, Zambian, Zimbabwean...
but i think the word you were looking for was Mahaloan....
let me know what you think!
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People from Brunei are called Bruneians. Palauans are from Palau.
And where do the "-ese" come from? China to Chinese? Japan to Japanese? Why not Japanites? Japonians? (Not to mention that this is just what we call them in English... it's a totally different word in Chinese and Japanese.) Why are men from the Philippines called "Filipinos"? And, more importantly, why is that word spelled with an "F"?
People from Burkina Faso are called Burkinabé. The Danes are from Denmark, the Swiss from Switzerland and the French are from France.
Oh, yes, it really could be a lot worse:
The Dutch are from... the Netherlands? What's up with that? Kiwis are from New Zealand. People from Madagascar are called the Malagasy and the Basotho people (singular Mosotho) are from Lesotho. Yikes!
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http://www.wolframalpha.com/
For example:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=_A_A_IAN
Use _A_A_IAN..
yields:
bahamian, bavarian, canadian, hawaiian, malawian..
You can try every combination..
or you can try "all words with ..ian.."
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+ending+with+ian
, then sieve through which fit your criteria.
Have fun :-)
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Are there any class of peoples that have a sequence of three vowels other than Mahaloian? American, African, Indian, Canadian, Californian
Cuban, Brazilian, Chilean, Amazonian, San Franciscan, Alien, Martian, Russian, Peruvian, Columbian, Ecuadorian, Costa Rican, Egyptian, Ethiopian, Latvian, Mauritanian, Algerian, Nigerian, Liberian, Australian, Malaysian, Cambodian, Mongolian, Estonian, Laotian, Tanzanian, Moroccan, Saudi Arabian, Georgian, Bulgarian, Iranian, Romanian, Ukrainian, Italian, Korean, Angolan, Panamanian, Zambian, Zairean, Republican, Libyan, Moroccan, Kenyan, Hungarian, German, Belgian, Bosnian, Croatian, Guinean, Estonian, Ugandan, Venezuelan, Zimbabwean, Micronesian, Jamaican, Haitian, Somalian, Slovenian, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Tongan, Tunisian, Ugandan, Namibian, Indonesian, Mexican, Saharan, Austrian, Saint Lucian, Samoan, Armenian, Companion, .....
Add to this list. Can someone put this list in alphabetical order and repost? Are there any class of peoples that have a sequence of three vowels embedded within the name, other than Mahaloian? The last last letter must be an "n"
This is a companion question to my previous one "I find the word Mahaloian to be difficult to pronounce. Any possibility to change it to Mahalonian, to sound like Babylonian?" :
http://www.mahalo.com/answers/Mahaloian/i-find-the-word-mahaloian-to-be-difficult-to-pronounce-any-possibility-to-change-it-to-mahalonian-to-sound-like-babylonian
I contend that "Mahaloian" does not follow generally accepted linguistic rules of practice in the naming of a class of people. Thus I contend calling ourselves Mahaloian's as in "Mahaloian of the Week" is linguistically a problem. http://www.mahalo.com/answers/Mahaloian/meet-the-mahaloian-of-the-week-buddawiggi I request that we make a change and call ourselves "Mahalonians" or "Mahaloans" although I know of no peoples that end in "oans" and the final sequence of "loan" does not sit well with me, considering our present world financial crisis. It might be mistaken for "Maha loans," although it would be pronounced by those in the know as "lo-ans." We could possibly have it: "Mahalo'an" just as we have "Hawai'i" and use an "okina" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOkina but still this is a problem because it would often be left out. The sooner we can make this change, the better. Of course, we can keep it, and say "We are the only class of people who have a sequence of three vowels in our name." But Mahaloian is a tongue twister for me!
(I notice the url does not work because this system does not translate the ʻOkina correctly but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOkina is a valid entry in the Wikipedia, and you will need to drag from right to left over the url and paste into your browser to see this.)
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Add to this list. Can someone put this list in alphabetical order and repost? Are there any class of peoples that have a sequence of three vowels embedded within the name, other than Mahaloian? The last last letter must be an "n"
This is a companion question to my previous one "I find the word Mahaloian to be difficult to pronounce. Any possibility to change it to Mahalonian, to sound like Babylonian?" :
http://www.mahalo.com/answers/Mahaloian/i-find-the-word-mahaloian-to-be-difficult-to-pronounce-any-possibility-to-change-it-to-mahalonian-to-sound-like-babylonian
I contend that "Mahaloian" does not follow generally accepted linguistic rules of practice in the naming of a class of people. Thus I contend calling ourselves Mahaloian's as in "Mahaloian of the Week" is linguistically a problem. http://www.mahalo.com/answers/Mahaloian/meet-the-mahaloian-of-the-week-buddawiggi I request that we make a change and call ourselves "Mahalonians" or "Mahaloans" although I know of no peoples that end in "oans" and the final sequence of "loan" does not sit well with me, considering our present world financial crisis. It might be mistaken for "Maha loans," although it would be pronounced by those in the know as "lo-ans." We could possibly have it: "Mahalo'an" just as we have "Hawai'i" and use an "okina" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOkina but still this is a problem because it would often be left out. The sooner we can make this change, the better. Of course, we can keep it, and say "We are the only class of people who have a sequence of three vowels in our name." But Mahaloian is a tongue twister for me!
(I notice the url does not work because this system does not translate the ʻOkina correctly but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ʻOkina is a valid entry in the Wikipedia, and you will need to drag from right to left over the url and paste into your browser to see this.)
duenhsiyen
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| September 06, 2009 03:31 PM |
And... I see that you've already said that that's what you'd feel more natural with.
In any case... and I'm sorry it bugs you so much, but... *why* does it bug you? Most communication here takes place via the written word, so pronunciation doesn't really matter.
Think of it being like classical greek from the Athenian era, wherein nobody really knows how the natives pronounced the words at the time, such that profs are usually careful to point out that classical greek is not spoken... it's read.
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• I am going now with "Mahaloan" four syllables is easier, rather than what I suggested above "Mahalonian". I have discussed my difficulties pronouncing "Mahaloian" on other pages, so now, I will consolidate them all and eventually ask the question: Which do you prefer, Mahaloan or Mahaloian, when describing a person who is a member of the Mahalo.com website. I don't know who was the first to use Mahaloan, but I like your suggestion here.
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September 06, 2009 03:54 PM
here's the list alphabetically African, Alien, Algerian, Amazonian, American, Angolan, Armenian, Australian, Austrian, Belgian, Bosnian, Brazilian, Bulgarian, Californian, Cambodian, Canadian, Chilean, Columbian, Companion, Costa Rican, Croatian, Cuban, Ecuadorian, Egyptian, Estonian, Ethiopian, German, Georgian, Guinean, Haitian, Hungarian, Indian, Indonesian, Italian, Iranian, Jamaican, Kenyan, Korean, Laotian, Latvianm, Liberian, Libyan, Lithuanian, Macedonian, Malaysian, Martian, Mauritanian, Mexican, Micronesian, Mongolian, Moroccan, Namibian, Nigerian, Panamanian, Peruvian, Republican, Romanian, Russian, Saharan, Saint Lucian, San Franciscan, Saudi Arabian, Slovenian, Somalian, Samoan, Singaporean, Sinhalese, Tanzanian, Tongan, Tunisian, Ugandan, Ukrainian, Venezuelan, Zairean, Zambian, Zimbabwean...
but i think the word you were looking for was Mahaloan....
let me know what you think!
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September 06, 2009 04:04 PM
It could be worse: People from Brunei are called Bruneians. Palauans are from Palau.
And where do the "-ese" come from? China to Chinese? Japan to Japanese? Why not Japanites? Japonians? (Not to mention that this is just what we call them in English... it's a totally different word in Chinese and Japanese.) Why are men from the Philippines called "Filipinos"? And, more importantly, why is that word spelled with an "F"?
People from Burkina Faso are called Burkinabé. The Danes are from Denmark, the Swiss from Switzerland and the French are from France.
Oh, yes, it really could be a lot worse:
The Dutch are from... the Netherlands? What's up with that? Kiwis are from New Zealand. People from Madagascar are called the Malagasy and the Basotho people (singular Mosotho) are from Lesotho. Yikes!
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September 06, 2009 05:43 PM
I once read a manual on diplomacy etiquette that said you're supposed to call Hungarians "Magyar", and, believe it or not, in polite company, Japanese should be "Nipponese".
In any case, honestly, I presumed from the start that the ordinary term was Mahaloan, and I thought people were saying Mahaloian just to be funny.
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In any case, honestly, I presumed from the start that the ordinary term was Mahaloan, and I thought people were saying Mahaloian just to be funny.
September 06, 2009 09:32 PM
Well, I would enjoy more consistency, since the humor was lost on me from the post although I can see what you mean for it to be funny as an inside joke. Kind of like exaggeration. For some strange reason, I thought of this video by Heifetz. Very funny if you are a violinist!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjLrm_fQ_go
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September 06, 2009 09:38 PM
The interesting cases are countries / localities with vowel endings, or vowel like sounding endings: Hawaii, Palau, Brunei, China, Shanghai, Venice, Florence, Korea, Rome, Italy, Hungary, Tuscany, bourgeois, France, cello, oboe, archive.....
Hawaiian, Palauan, Bruneian, Chinese, Shanghainese, Venetian, Florentine, Korean, Roman, Italian, Hungarian, Tuscan, Bourgeoisie, French, cellist, oboist, archivist....
So I still am favoring Mahaloan: Ma ha low un
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Hawaiian, Palauan, Bruneian, Chinese, Shanghainese, Venetian, Florentine, Korean, Roman, Italian, Hungarian, Tuscan, Bourgeoisie, French, cellist, oboist, archivist....
So I still am favoring Mahaloan: Ma ha low un
September 07, 2009 04:27 AM
I recommend you a more efficient way to do this : Wolfram Alpha. http://www.wolframalpha.com/
For example:
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=_A_A_IAN
Use _A_A_IAN..
yields:
bahamian, bavarian, canadian, hawaiian, malawian..
You can try every combination..
or you can try "all words with ..ian.."
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+ending+with+ian
, then sieve through which fit your criteria.
Have fun :-)
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September 07, 2009 06:46 AM
Using Wolfram:
Iroquoian and Kalapooian are the only words in the English language that ends in ___oian
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+ending+with+oian
So Mahaloian would be the third, when and if it gets into widespread use. So there is a case for keeping Mahaloian! The more I pronounce it, the more easily it comes. However, in Mahalo, the accent is on the second syllable, while, in Mahaloian, the accent is on the third syllable to come out smoothly. That is where I am getting tripped up! I still want to keep the accent on the second syllable, by habit, and then I get tongue tied!
As an aside, Ohioan is the only word in the English language that ends in __ioan. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+ending+with+ioan
Other trivia, locally, there is a joke about the meaning of Mahalo (which means 'thank you' in Hawaiian) It seems two tourists are arguing about the meaning of Mahalo. One insists that it means "trash" because it is on all the trashcans!
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Iroquoian and Kalapooian are the only words in the English language that ends in ___oian
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+ending+with+oian
So Mahaloian would be the third, when and if it gets into widespread use. So there is a case for keeping Mahaloian! The more I pronounce it, the more easily it comes. However, in Mahalo, the accent is on the second syllable, while, in Mahaloian, the accent is on the third syllable to come out smoothly. That is where I am getting tripped up! I still want to keep the accent on the second syllable, by habit, and then I get tongue tied!
As an aside, Ohioan is the only word in the English language that ends in __ioan. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=words+ending+with+ioan
Other trivia, locally, there is a joke about the meaning of Mahalo (which means 'thank you' in Hawaiian) It seems two tourists are arguing about the meaning of Mahalo. One insists that it means "trash" because it is on all the trashcans!
September 07, 2009 06:39 PM
I woke up this morning thinking about Mahaloian, and trying to pronounce it. It still just messes me up because it has that extra syllable: Ma ha low ee un versus Ma ha low un for Mahaloan. And the fact that in the second case, the accent does not have to shift from the second to third syllable. So, for me Mahaloan is my preference. And besides Iroquoian does not suffer from the addition of an extra syllable. Ir row quoi un
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September 08, 2009 02:50 PM
Well seeing as nobody else mentioned Liverpudlian, I thought I'd better.
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So, in light of your comment, despite my other reservations, I vote for Mahaloan and have it pronounced Ma-ha-low-un. Or another is "Mahaloen" Anyone else want to weigh in on this debate?