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There are at least three different uses of the the phrase "Bloody Mary". drmatt, you are too quick to use the "fact refuted" comment.
Clarisvisu is probably addressing the question correctly, the "Bloody Mary" described in the question was clearly the modern children's fable with no historical basis. It is described in the wikipedia entry cited by Clarisvisu and more reliably in the Snopes page cited below.
However, if you read the wikipedia entry note that it wrongly adds false information about Queen Mary. She did not have miscarriages and was not accused of murdering potential babies. Nothing could be more untrue: she was desperate for children but unable to bear them. Her mother had many miscarriages and she herself was sickly. drmatt is correct in that she was known as "Bloody Mary" because of the number of executions for heresy during her reign.
The "Bloody Mary" that I like is the drink. It was invented by an American bartender in Paris, France, and includes tomato juice, vodka, and Tabasco sauce. Here in New Orleans it is traditional to drink a "Bloody Mary" with Sunday breakfast.
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http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/bloodymary.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England
http://www.cocktailtimes.com/vodka/bloodymary.shtml
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In some iterations of the story, you chant "I stole your baby" or "I killed your baby". This might tie into the belief Mary Tudor was Bloody Mary because she was unable to have children and, I think, wanted them badly.
Some people say she died in a car accident with her children, but that doesn't seem quite right to me. Car's haven't been around that long. I'm not sure how old the legend is, but I feel like it must predate cars.
In the World of Darkness book, "Urban Legends", she was married to a man and they had children. Everyone said the children had their father's eyes. Her husband eventually left her to be with another woman. He wrote her, asking for the children, so she sent him the part that was his-- their eyes. It further goes on to say that Bloody Mary may not be a specific ghost, but an avatar of mothers who kill their children. Whenever a mother commits such an act and then dies herself, Bloody Mary is reborn.
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http://thebeyond.info/mary.php
http://www.castleofspirits.com/bloodymary.html
http://secure1.white-wolf.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=857
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January 12, 2009 02:25 AM
How much of the legends of Bloody Mary were true? Did she really murder her husband and children?
Some books say that Bloody Mary did several things like, murdering her husband, stealing and killing children, killing others, and committing suicide. What is the true story of Bloody Marry?
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| January 12, 2009 03:42 AM |
Clarisvisu is probably addressing the question correctly, the "Bloody Mary" described in the question was clearly the modern children's fable with no historical basis. It is described in the wikipedia entry cited by Clarisvisu and more reliably in the Snopes page cited below.
However, if you read the wikipedia entry note that it wrongly adds false information about Queen Mary. She did not have miscarriages and was not accused of murdering potential babies. Nothing could be more untrue: she was desperate for children but unable to bear them. Her mother had many miscarriages and she herself was sickly. drmatt is correct in that she was known as "Bloody Mary" because of the number of executions for heresy during her reign.
The "Bloody Mary" that I like is the drink. It was invented by an American bartender in Paris, France, and includes tomato juice, vodka, and Tabasco sauce. Here in New Orleans it is traditional to drink a "Bloody Mary" with Sunday breakfast.
Source(s):
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/ghosts/bloodymary.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_I_of_England
http://www.cocktailtimes.com/vodka/bloodymary.shtml
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January 12, 2009 03:09 AM
There is no such person at all. It's just a legend, no truer than Paul Bunyan's blue ox.
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January 12, 2009 03:14 AM
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There IS such a person as "Bloody Mary". (See following answer.)
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January 12, 2009 03:24 AM
You have the mythical witch (and her equally-mythical ghost) confused with a real-life figure. See my refutation of your answer.
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January 12, 2009 03:14 AM
Mary I of England had almost 300 religious dissenters burned at the stake in the Marian Persecutions, earning her the sobriquet of "Bloody Mary".
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January 12, 2009 03:25 AM
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The name is a coincidence; it's a different person. The "Bloody Mary" of lore killed her husband, committed suicide, and killed children; in addition, many of the 'incantations' that were supposed to summon her involved talking about the death of a child of hers. Mary I of England did none of these things, and she never bore any children at all. Also, the "Bloody Mary" of lore is commonly named "Mary Worth" or "Mary Worthington"; this also doesn't match with Mary I of England.
There is a reason that the two figures are kept separate on Wikipedia's disambiguation page for "Bloody Mary."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_mary
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There is a reason that the two figures are kept separate on Wikipedia's disambiguation page for "Bloody Mary."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_mary
January 12, 2009 04:01 AM
This is partly a case of the winners writing history. Mary was Catholic, and burned protestants. Elizabeth was protestant, and plenty of Catholics died in turn. But since Elizabeth had a long reign, and under her the country became fully protestant. So Mary's persecutions were remembered by the protestant country and she got the title of "Bloody Mary."
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January 14, 2009 05:28 AM
It's hard to tell. The legend is so widespread and it's mostly a ghost story. Since a lot of people don't believe in ghosts, it's difficult to find the origin of her. I've heard several "real" names for her, including Mary Black and Mary Worth,and even more origin stories. In some iterations of the story, you chant "I stole your baby" or "I killed your baby". This might tie into the belief Mary Tudor was Bloody Mary because she was unable to have children and, I think, wanted them badly.
Some people say she died in a car accident with her children, but that doesn't seem quite right to me. Car's haven't been around that long. I'm not sure how old the legend is, but I feel like it must predate cars.
In the World of Darkness book, "Urban Legends", she was married to a man and they had children. Everyone said the children had their father's eyes. Her husband eventually left her to be with another woman. He wrote her, asking for the children, so she sent him the part that was his-- their eyes. It further goes on to say that Bloody Mary may not be a specific ghost, but an avatar of mothers who kill their children. Whenever a mother commits such an act and then dies herself, Bloody Mary is reborn.
Source(s):
http://thebeyond.info/mary.php
http://www.castleofspirits.com/bloodymary.html
http://secure1.white-wolf.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=857
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