Very educational indeed should be taught in every class room in every country i do not understand how this can be a form of Indoctrination. We can tell children that santa clause will bring toys for them but not how the big nations on earth is polluting the world .Shame shame shame just a shame.This video is the truth only the truth and nothing but the truth. What most people do not understand is that we are destroying the earth,destroying animals,destroying the environment,destroying life,human beings are committing human genocide. We cannot bury our heads in the ground and pretend that nothing is going on. You have children,women and men in Ethiopia and Sudan dying from hunger while in America food is thrown away. What the lady is saying is right. Some people hate to hear the truth especially if it is something about them which would make them look bad so of course. Glenn Beck would have a problem. The lady is speaking about America and what America an Americans are doing to the earth.
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Looks like propaganda to me. I don't think it would harm kids whose parents would discuss it with them.
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It is evil, evil, EVIL, I could hear the devil speaking through that woman, she must be a witch . . . ok not so much.

I can see why a stark consumerist would consider it propaganda. It shows where things come from, but one could easily argue that it calls into question the ethics of the capitalist "greed is good" model. Which I think should be questioned from time to time to keep people informed and companies on their toes.

Pretty heavy stuff for young children, but is it "indoctrination"?

Personally I don't believe so. I think it does talk about the evils of big business (which should please liberals) & it warns about the perils of uncontrolled spending (which conservatives should appreciate)
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I watched this in a college class on alternative business methods. The group's concensus afterwards was that it was pretty shameless propaganda. There are a number of important issues which are glazed over in the video and her use of hyperbole is painful at times. In addition, and I don't have time to look up examples at the moment, but a lot of her numbers and percentages are just plain wrong. I don't think it's appropriate for children because it is misinformation.

I'm for education about the process of how things are built and how government regulation is handled, but not with bad facts.
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It is the parent's responsibility to discuss any idea that is presented to their children.

It always cracks me up that parents will throw a fit over a video at school but will allow their kids to watch Family Guy and SpongeBob at home.

Kids are presented with all kinds of things that sometimes we don't agree with. At the end of they day, it's our responsibility to help them grow up to be productive adults that can think for themselves and form their own opinions.
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If Glenn Beck says something, you can be fairly sure that the opposite is true.

Sure, my politics are showing, a lot, but showing a video is not "propaganda," at least not how people are using the term. "Propaganda" is a politicized term that, nowadays, just means something that expresses an opinion you disagree with. Under that definition, everything counts as propaganda.

So is the solution to avoid it all? Hardly. We live in a country founded on the First Amendment. The way to deal with ideas you disagree is not to silence them. It is to entertain them and then think critically to decide what you think is right. And education is supposed to develop people's critical thinking skills, not float students through a life of unchallenging material they never have to think about, until they're all grown up and have opinions, but can't tell you why.
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INDOCTRINATION (noun) From Audioenglish.net

1. teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically

Familiarity information: INDOCTRINATION used as a noun is very rare.

Why are parents today so afraid of information?
Guess what?
Most of the facts and information that is local, state, and federal approved to be taught to American children IS propaganda.
All public school curriculum have books written with the bias of its publishers, professors, and Boards of Education.

Look at the history that is taught.
Do you think the school books let students know about the affair that Roosevelt was having? Or that Kennedy was legally drugged with narcotics and other mind altering drugs during the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Check out Harcore History with Dan Carlin at www.dancarlin.com.

I suggest reading "Lies My Teacher Told Me" by sociologist James W. Loewen and "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn.
Most of the approved history books taught in public schools only scratch the surface on what truly happened and sometimes contradicts the real historical facts. You want to know the meat, marrow and sinew of history? Then you need to read a book, no make that read several books, watch a documentary or two, ask others what they know and then draw your own conclusions.
Public school history is all revisionist history.

Even the science books are biased. Old scientific theories are held up by the scientific establishment, and new theories have a tough time to be accepted even if the data appears to be true. Remember how Copernicus was rewarded when he challenged the conventional wisdom of a flat earth in his writing of De revolutionibus orbium coelestium?

Even science facts change.

In fact, most of the books are written by publishers with the first goal is to sell books and second to properly tell the truth second. Many have mistakes in them, but because state approves it then it must be official history.

The only absolute non propaganda skill taught is math. That is a universally accepted truth with little room for interpretation.

As for indoctrination, I think that word has recently been overly misused. Students are "indoctrinated" into all kinds of misleading information about American culture everyday.

For example, the idealist propaganda that America is a Meritocracy; if you study hard and work hard, then you will be rewarded with success. This is an American myth. Of course, I would like to believe in the Horatio Alger story too and hardworking immigrants that come the America help prop this up, but the reality is it matters more who you know and what social circle you are surrounded by which gives you an advantage and more opportunities than someone without.
Read Freakonomics by

The evening news, Time, Newsweek, your local paper, books with a single author...its all biased.

In a nutshell. All information can be viewed as propaganda. Instead of pre censoring information, which by the way will make them more curious to seek it out, allow them to take it in.
Question it.
Discuss it.
New ideas are teachable moments to try install what you value and how you perceive the world. It is important that students become independent thinkers. Unless you fear what your sons and daughters think, then I suggest moving into an Amish community.

And remember the words of our wife cheating 32nd President, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."
Source(s):
http://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0684818868
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-k...
http://www.bede.org.uk/copernicus.htm
http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/indoctrination.htm
http://www.dancarlin.com/disp.php/hharchive

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This is obviously an opinion piece that is being presented as fact. It is completely in line with the beliefs and goals of the Tides foundation, who funded it. The funding source of any presentation is obviously the first place to search for potential sources of bias. Bias does not always equate to incorrect or useless information, but it should always be investigated when evaluating the potential "skew" of the information.

It is not evil, it is just obviously biased toward the social justice and economic justice theories as promoted by the Tides Foundation. Presenting it as indisputable fact is patently dishonest and certainly smacks of propaganda.

The video is certainly filled with several well known propaganda techniques such as Assertiveness, Card Stacking, Glittering Generalities, Pinpointing the Enemy, and Simplification (Stereotyping).

I don't think the video would be harmful. My wife teaches middle school and her students could easily recognize this piece for what it is, and chalk it up to the goofiness of whatever teacher tried to pass it off as fact. Personally I think it might be useful, especially if presented side by side with a video from another point of view, and then use them both to teach evaluation of information sources.

As for Glenn Beck and Fox news? I don't watch either and frankly don't care too much about what they think, as it has no bearing on my day to day life or that of my children. I suspect that folks who get all up in arms about Beck and Fox are wasting a lot of time and energy for little reason. Perhaps they could put that time and energy to better use learning how to evaluate sources.

This video is a great start in learning to evaluate sources.
Check out Authority, Bias, and Accuracy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvVhN3_ex_8
Source(s):
http://www.tidesfoundation.org/
http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111500/proptech.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvVhN3_ex_8

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