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M$1.50 September 04, 2009 08:47 AM

Is Quebec's mandatory school curriculum in ethics and religion a good idea?

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1956333

Quebec mandates that all schools teach an 11-year curriculum in ethics and religious culture. Students study a broad range of world religions, with an emphasis on Quebec's own religious heritage (Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, and native religions). A number of parents have complained that this is a violation of their freedom of religion, but a recent court case was decided in favor of the government.

What do you think? Is this a model to be emulated, or an abomination? Why?

Please provide sources for any facts used to support your answer.
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September 04, 2009 12:09 PM
This law must be looked at in perspective. For Quebec, it is a step forward. In the past religion was taught in schools, and the parents were able to choose which religion (if they were Catholic or Protestant). That was terribly unfair to members of other religions and certainly not the government's business to do at all.

Now all school children will get a balanced course covering all the world's religions. It is even a requirement at parochial schools. While it's not clear that this is a good way to spend the government's money or students' time compared to more science classes, for instance, it certainly is an improvement.

This would be a good model to emulate in countries or provinces where some specific religion is currently taught. It would be a huge advance in the civilization of Middle East countries if instituted there.

On the other hand, it would be a bad idea in secular countries where Freedom of Religion is more established.

Ideally, religion should be treated as pornography is today; and, it should be a major crime to subject children to religious instruction. When they are full adults, say 21 years old, they may be mature enough to evaluate religious teachings for themselves. A child, who is deemed too immature to see sex or drink alcohol, is somehow deemed mature enough to be exposed to the most difficult, abstract, and violence-prone philosophies, which is ridiculous. The result is brainwashing, where virtually all children are unable to escape the religion of their parents and make an informed choice.
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http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1956333
http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/irf/2004/35507.htm
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2009/02/hbc-90004472
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/dvorsky20070407/



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September 05, 2009 03:42 AM
A crime? You sound upset, but I don't think being exposed to more information deserves being classified as criminal. On the plus side, I'm glad my experience with religious education is nothing like you describe.

I'm in favor of taking all "theoretical" teachings out of the classrooms and substituting them with proper scientific (and theoretical) method. Teach logic and how to determine fact from rhetoric and you'll have kids that can make good decisions at any age.

I vote no for book burnings too. But I'm fanatical like that.

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September 05, 2009 04:44 AM
A crime? I can not think of a better way to encourage kids to get involved with the weirder side of religion than to treat it as taboo.

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September 05, 2009 11:55 AM
Did you happen to read that fourth source I listed? Really criminal. But I was mainly making a parallel to how porn is currently treated. Adults who attempt to "groom" children or who give or sell porn to children are considered among society's worst criminals. I think that should be the approach to adults who "groom" their children to a particular religion or give or sell them religious literature.

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September 08, 2009 09:22 PM
I did not even need to read the other answers to yours was the best, the paragraph that starts Ideally... sold me. never heard a more cogent answer.

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September 04, 2009 04:50 PM
I think that a reasonably balanced teaching of world religions is an important part of education at this age. Students need to better understand Christianity, Judiasim, Islam, Hinduism, Buddism, etc. - this is increasingly important in a global environment where people of different faiths are interacting more and more. Schools should not be taking on the role of promoting a specific religion, but teaching it is a critical part of eduction.

Religion/Philosophy/Theology deal with some of the most profound questions of life - and kids should definitely gaining understanding and learning about these ideas.

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September 05, 2009 03:47 AM
I agree. Religion happens. Turning your back on it won't make it go away. More information is helpful.

But as I've said many times on Mahalo, teach logic and proper scientific method. Take all theoretical teachings out of the classroom (such as creation and evolution) and focus on data gathering and experiments without requiring the students to come conclusions that are based on theory.

Let them think for themselves in every area. Not just religion.

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September 04, 2009 05:14 PM
No state should be in the business of providing compulsorily religious instruction.

The universal declaration of human rights:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion"

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September 04, 2009 06:26 PM
I think you are confusing compulsory religious instruction with compulsory religion – these are completely different. No one is suggesting forcing religious rituals or forcing beliefs on people. Your argument is akin to suggesting that by teaching ABOUT cancer in a biology class that people would be forced to HAVE cancer. It doesn’t work that way.

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September 05, 2009 04:45 AM
@mrcal, information about religion is different than religious instruction, but I get your point.

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September 05, 2009 12:27 AM
Yes, it's a good idea.

All educational jurisdictions in North America should do that.

Then you wouldn't have problem like... high school kids in biology being asked if men have the same number of ribs as women with them answering no, and then when you show them both a skeleton of a man and a skeleton of a woman and tell them to count the number of ribs on each, when they get the same number, they get confused and claim it's because their first grade teacher never taught them how to count.

And you'd have fewer problems with people thinking things like... people should all speak english because that's the language of the Bible.

And you'd have fewer people thinking that science is a religion and that religion is a science.

etc.

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