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M$1 April 24, 2009 12:06 AM

How many people are in jail for marijuana-related crimes? How much does that cost society? What percentage are violent?

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1. How many people are in jail for marijuana-related crimes?
2. How much does that cost society yearly? Hard costs vs. lost productivity?
3. What percentage of marijuana prisoners were involved in a violent offense?
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April 24, 2009 12:42 AM
Although I am a long time marijuana user and proponent of legalization, honesty compels me to look at the statistics. Here is the view from the other side;

From;
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/whos_in_prison_for_marij/whos_in_prison_for_marij.pdf

"Out of the total number of state inmates doing time for any drug offense, 83 percent had a prior criminal history. In other words, the large majority were not first time offenders. They were people who had committed crimes in the past, and nearly two thirds of them (62 percent) had multiple prior convictions. Marijuana accounted for just 13 percent of all state drug offenders.
Looking at it from the broader perspective of the entire prison population, BJS noted that in 1997 marijuana was involved in the conviction of only 2.7 percent of all state inmates. About 1.6 percent of the state prison population were held for offenses involving just marijuana, while just 0.7 percent were incarcerated with marijuana possession as the only charge.
Further narrowing the field, by excluding those prisoners with criminal histories, BJS found that only 0.3 percent of all state inmates were first time
marijuana possession offenders (see Figure 1). And this statistic, it’s worth noting, refers to possession of any amount—even as much as a hundred pounds or more—not just “personal use” quantities.
Recent BJS estimates based on prisoner surveys show that at midyear 2002, approximately 8,400 state prison inmates were serving time for marijuana possession (any amount), and fewer than half of them were first time offenders. The point here is inescapable: Of the more than 1.2 million people serving time in state prisons across America, only 3,600 individuals were sentenced on a first offense for possession of marijuana. Again, this figure includes possession of any amount.

FIGURE 1 Inmates in state prison for marijuana offenses (1997)34
Drug possession offenses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .5.6% of all state inmates
First time drug offenders . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .3.6% of all state inmates
Offenses involving marijuana . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .2.7% of all state inmates
Prisoners held for marijuana only . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .1.6% of all state inmates
Prisoners held for marijuana possession only . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.7% of all state inmates
First time offenders held only for marijuana possession
(any amount) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .0.3% of all state inmates"

My sympathy for traffickers is limited. My sympathy for those who grow their own and never sell it is unbounded.
Now an question and an observation. Is marijuana a gateway drug? Yes, and the government keeps it that way.
Back in the late 60's and early 70's we heard all kinds of horror stories about drugs. Then we tried marijuana and it turns out that a lot of what the government said was bs.
The problem was that we were children (late teens, very early twenties, and if you don't think those are still children, then you have not yet reached your 30's). Children do not see the world in shades of gray, they see the world in black and white, good and evil. When they realized that adults have lied to them, their reaction is to ask, "What else are they lying about?"
This is why it is so important to tell kids the truth. Once we knew that we had been lied to about marijuana, we began to wonder if we were being lied to about other drugs. So we tried other drugs to find out.
And the answer was yes and no. We were being lied to in some ways (peyote, mescaline), and in other ways we were not even being warned enough (LSD, angel dust).
In addition, as we got older it became clear that alcohol is just as much of a drug as it is a beverage.
Marijuana is addictive, and because of that it is hard on the lungs and will sooner or later cause anxiety attacks. After four decades, I know. But in the end, if we are going to keep alcohol legal, then criminalizing marijuana is a losing proposition.
Every generation is going to grow up and realized the same thing that we did.
Source(s):
been there, done that



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April 24, 2009 01:05 AM
In analyzing these statistics I think it proper to observe, from the innumerable police stories in the papers, that the police are not targeting marijuana users unless they grow large amounts. What they are doing is using the easy charge to convict criminals as it is much harder to convict for assault, burglary etc. If there is marijuana in your pocket or car, that's plenty of evidence to convict. Police don't really do fingerprinting and exotic techniques that you see on tv for ordinary crimes, and it's really hard to convict for them. Most crimes don't even have witnesses, and witnesses are often unwilling or just unconvincing. Here's a typical marijuana charge from a recent incident here in New Orleans. A guy gets pulled over for doing double the speed limit in the city. The police spot a joint on his dashboard. Investigating further, the car turns out to be stolen. Searching the car, it is packed with the items from a recent burglary. Even the small dog on the front seat next to the driver (unwise in itself of course) turned out to be stolen. Of all the charges the marijuana one will be easiest to convict, and it will help put the guy away for a while. Anecdotes don't prove anything, but I thought this one was amusing. And it illustrates what is happening in most of the less drastic arrests for possession.

I'm in favor of legalizing marijuana; but, it won't really save much money if any. We'll have to spend a lot on more police and on better equipment and labs once the marijuana arrest crutch is taken away from the police and DA's.

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April 24, 2009 02:15 AM
Very good points. I had not thought about the consequences of having to convict for crimes that are harder to prosecute

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April 24, 2009 03:23 AM
The answer to that matthewh is simple. We don't want the government to make our choices for us. We want to make them ourselves, as long as it is not hurting other people. Smoking some dope, that you have grown in the privacy of your home is not hurting anyone but you.
Rush Limbaugh is not my favorite person by any means. But the man is 58 years old. He is old enough to know if he wishes to take Oxycontin.

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April 28, 2009 01:07 AM
Good to see someone who does their research, not just grab the first info they see or only find the stats that suit their point of view. Nice answer.

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April 24, 2009 12:33 AM
1. 27,900 inmates are there for solely marijuana crimes; 64,000 have some drug convinction linked to marijuana (representing 4% of the US prisoner population).
2. The cost to corrections in terms of "hard costs" is estimated at $3.1 billion, where the overall cost of enforcement (including corrections, police and the courts) is to the tune of $7 billion.
3. Violent crime linked to marijuana usage typically occurs between dealers. Approximately 90% of those imprisoned for marijuana have had no history of violent offenses.
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Marijuana and the Correctional System
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/524483_12

Rethinking the Consequences of Decriminalizing Marijuana
norml.org/pdf_files/NORML_Rethinking_Decriminalizing_Marijuana.pdf


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April 24, 2009 12:38 AM
I found this on the topic not sure if it will help you:-)

# Marijuana is the most used illegal drug in the United States. Nearly 69 million Americans over the age of 12 have tried marijuana at least once.
# Marijuana is California's largest cash crop.
# Today's marijuana is 10 to 15 times stronger than it was in the 60's
# Reaction time for motor skills, such as driving is reduced by 41% after smoking 1 joint and is reduced 63% after smoking 2 joints.
# There have been over 7,000 published scientific and medical studies documenting the damage that marijuana poses. Not one study has shown marijuana to be safe.
# Data has shown that people high on marijuana show the same lack of coordination on standard "drunk driver" tests as do people who have had to much to drink.
# The daily use of 1 to 3 marijuana joints can produce the same lung damage and potential cancer risk as smoking five times as many cigarettes.
# Marijuana is the second most common drug, after alcohol, present in the blood stream of non-fatally and fatally injured persons.
# Among teens 12 to 17, the average age of first trying marijuana was 14 years old.
# A yearly survey of students in grades 8 to 12 shows that 23% of 8th graders have tried marijuana at least once and by tenth grade, 21% are "current" users. Among 12th graders, nearly 50% have tried marijuana at least once, and about 24% were current users.
# Marijuana is a complex material containing 421 chemicals, 60 of which are only found in marijuana
# 33.6% of students listed to have used marijuana in the last year and 20% were listed to have used in the last month.
# 75% of drug-related criminal charges are connected to marijuana.
# 65% of people arrested for marijuana related crimes are for simple possession.
# Approximately 50,000 Canadians are arrested each year for marijuana related crimes.
# 600,000 Canadians have a criminal record for simple possession of marijuana.
# Estimates put the value of the marijuana industry to the British Columbia Economy at anywhere between $2 billion and $10 billion, making it one of British Colombia's top three industries.
# Marijuana is California's largest cash crop.
# Among American highschool seniors 1 in 11 is a daily marijuana user.
# Reaction time for motor skills, such as driving, are reduced by 41% after smoking 1 joint and is reduced by 63% after smoking 2 joints.
# There have been over 7,000 published scientific and medical studies documenting the damage that marijuana poses, none shoed that marijuana was safe.
# In 1998 8.3% of youths between the ages of 12 and 17 were current marijuana users.
# Marijuana is the second most common drug, after alcohol, present in the blood of nonfatal and fatally injured persons.
# Marijuana treatment admission rates increased in 41 States between 1993 and 1999.
Source(s):
http://www.drugrehabtexas.com/info.htm?7


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April 24, 2009 01:18 AM
Marijuana trends across the United States are indicators of the rate of Marijuana abuse, Marijuana addiction, domestic violence, and child abuse.

http://www.teensavers.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/potskull.jpg

"In 2007, 47.4 percent of the 1,841,182 total arrests for drug abuse violations were for marijuana -- a total of 872,720. Of those, 775,137 people were arrested for marijuana possession alone. By contrast in 2000 a total of 734,497 Americans were arrested for marijuana offenses, of which 646,042 were for possession alone."

http://i41.tinypic.com/14o7pg8.jpg

Statistics and chart above, sourced from http://www.drugwarfacts.org

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U.S. Department of Justice's Bureau of Justice Statistics:
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/

1. Inmates serving sentences on federal/state/local drug charges:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/dcf.pdf
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/p00.htm

2. Cost of Marijuana-related crimes to Society:

- Costs of Fighting Drug Traffickers:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/pdf/economic_costs98.pdf
Estimates crime-related costs of drug abuse in the United States. Covers topics related to crime victims, drug supply reduction, crime careers, goods and services lost to crime.

- Lost productivity in workplace:
http://www.dol.gov/asp/programs/drugs/workingpartners/Screen15.htm
Gives statistics on the prevalence of employee drug use and how it impacts the workplace both economically and socially.

- Health Care and Treatment Costs:
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/pdf/economic_costs98.pdf
and
http://www.treatment.org/Communique/MCare/index.html
Talks about the costs to society of untreated substance abuse. Covers alcohol, tobacco and illicit drug use.

- Costs to the Criminal Justice System (federal, state, local):
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/pdf/economic_costs98.pdf
and
http://www.casacolumbia.org/pdshopprov/files/47299a.pdf
and
http://www.casacolumbia.org/pdshopprov/files/5745.pdf
Evaluates state spending on adult corrections and juvenile justice systems and considers the cost of drug and alcohol-involved inmates by calculating the state and federal cost to incarcerate these individuals.

3. Percentage of Violent Crimes Linked to Substance Abuse:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/dcf.pdf
Has statistics on drug-related violent crime.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/satsfp97.htm
Includes information on the incidence of various alcohol/drug-related violent behaviors and crime.
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Also, check out the following for more on Marijuana-related statistics:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/dcf/duc.htm
and
http://www.cga.ct.gov/2008/rpt/2008-r-0455.htm


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