Do you think Rep. Joe Wilson's (R-SC) apology to President Obama was sincere?
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But only in the sense that he's a politician who will say whatever he needs to keep his career afloat--same thing applies to Repubs and Dems.
Is he sorry he shouted out like that in Congress?
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Hell no. This guy is known for outbursts and public grabs for attention. It's his bread and butter. It's probably what got him elected. That's just how this guy rolls.
Is he sorry that he got singled out and ostracized?
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Yes. He's sorry that there was much more backlash than he probably anticipated. The reaction to his comment likely isn't what he hoped for. He probably thought he was acting as the people's hero.
Is he sorry that he caused this much grief for the Republican Party?
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Yes. Probably. I worry that he's somewhere in a back room rolling a thick cigar between his fingers and cackling about how bad press is good press. But realistically, I think he regrets causing harm to the party, which is already struggling, and regrets putting his career in jeopardy.
Listen, I don't think this is an evil guy who is lying straight to our faces. I really think he pulled the type of stunt that normally gets him cheers, and it backfired. I think he knew an apology was in order, and it was right for him to do it.
I also think it was a pretty lousy apology, qualifying it as he did by reiterating how wrong he thinks Obama is and insinuating that this wrongness drove him to his actions. Miss Manners would not approve.
At the end of the day, stunts like this need to stop. On BOTH SIDES. I'm so sick of it, and I bet most of you all are too. This country needs big help, and I don't care which party hands it to us, but maliciously false and scary rumors, publicity stunts, misguided accusations, and derogatory insults....it all has to end.
Can't we just throw them all out and start over?
I'm thinking maybe Jon Stewart, Conan O'Brien, Bill Maher, Al Franken, and the crazy guy who sells beach towels down by the expressway (just to be different). They can't do much worse job, can they?
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M$The apology is very backhanded.
Apologizing but yet continuing to go against the president.
his apology
“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”
Him saying... "While I disagree with the President’s statement," makes it backhanded.
If he was sincere it would have been straight and too the point.
House Democratic Whip James Clyburn (D-S.C.) called Wilson's outburst "embarrassing," while McCain said it was "totally disrespectful" and that there was "no place for it in that setting or any other."
This is a guy who cares more about what other people think than what he's told to think (and then yells it during a joint session of Congress).
Honestly people like that are the ones who are spreading the rumors to begin with.
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M$I agree with you Gno.
I was just saying the same logic to a friend of mine.
Why is it backhanded? He was appologizing (sincere or not) for his outburst, not for doing what his entire party still thinks of the bill. He is not now obligated to agree with everything the President wants for the next 3 years.
Because it didn't need mentioning in his apology. In Kindergarten when they teach you how to say sorry it isn't acceptable to say "I still think you're a stupid head, but I'm sorry I punched you".
Now apply that same logic to this adult apology. You can't qualify by saying, "Well you're still wrong and you got me riled up....".
A stand alone apology would've been much more classy, and it doesn't require him to agree with anything the President says.
In that forum, a certain level of respect is owed to the President (whether you agree with him or not) - he is, in fact, the President. There is a time and a place for disagreement and discussion - the middle of the speech was not it. I think Wilson realized this (a bit late) and that was what he was sorry for.
Unfortunately, it seems like both sides of this debate don't seem to think that a well-reasoned, logical discourse on the subject can occur. Instead, everyone seems to be resorting to scare tactics, straw men arguments and extremist sound bites.
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M$My personal experience
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M$The saddest thing is that the incident may well gain him votes in right-wing South Carolina.
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M$His disrespect to the President was evident, so I doubt that he was sincere about his behavior, but was probably very sorry that his action could result in a smaller office or loss of a committee seat of some sort. I suppose that counts as some sort of sincerity.
Watched the speech
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M$Do you have a source that indicates Obama is offering free health care to illegal immigrants? The AP and most other media organizations that have read the bill all say the same thing, there is no funding for illegal immigrants.
From Associated Press
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The House version of the health care bill explicitly prohibits spending any federal money to help illegal immigrants get health care coverage. Illegal immigrants could buy private health insurance, as many do now, and they could also buy into a new government-run insurance plan if Congress creates one. But unlike legal residents, they wouldn't get federal subsidies to help them. The bill's exact language: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully in the United States." Health care legislation in the Senate is also being crafted to exclude illegal immigrants from coverage.
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Where are you getting your information?

Absolutely.
Can I nominate Craig Ferguson?
OMG I cannot agree with this less then 100%.