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I am quite comfortable with the Senate vote and believe it was the right thing for them to do.
Amtrak is a federally subsidized transportation system to the tune of $1.6 billion dollars and should NOT have the authority to restrict our 2nd amendment rights if they wish to continue to be subsidized.
The proposal passed by the Senate doesn't give the right for CCW permit holders to jump on board with a handcannon strapped to thie side though.
It is a clear proposal allowing passengers who are permitted to transport firearms provided that they declare they are doing so and that the arms are unloaded and in a securely locked container.
No different then the policies that the major airlines operate by.
This proposal only reverts Amtrak to its pre 9-11 policy, which should never of changed in the first place.
It is not the responsible gun owner who has thier weapons declared, unloaded and secured in a locked container that people riding Amtak need to worry about, its the nut-job with a ied taped to their crotch sitting next to you that is the problem.
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My personal feeling is that there are many travelers that do not carry gun's on aircraft since it is a more secure environment. Opening this up to train passengers will more then likely lead to more gun's being transported and eventually a rise in gun related crime.
It is quite easy to purchase a train ticket, check on a bag, and jump on...not much security is involved. Now then, if someone has malicious thoughts in their mind then naturally they will choose the easy method to transport the hand gun and do what they desire.
Not a good idea....a lot of controls need to be put in place before we have a rise in crime on our hands.
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What it amounts to is an unfunded mandate to build an unecessary security and secure carrying system for guns by the already hard pressed railroad. Have you traveled Amtrak lately? Outside the northeast corridor for commuters the trains have dwindled to a few cars and few passengers. The number of people wanting to bring their hunting guns on a train trip is probably near zero but Amtrak would be saddled with building the infrastructure at their stations and on their trains somehow.
Amtrak needs and should get much more funding and help to become a more popular transportation choice. It is very efficient in passengers per amount of fuel, when the trains are reasonably full. But it is slower and made unreliable by the right of way rules favoring the freight trains. And they don't have the money for advertising or the ability to offer discounts to help fill the trains.
Worrying about getting votes from the gun lobby over something that's dogma rather than a practical need is the last thing the government should be doing about mass transit.
Hopefully the provision will be killed in the House-Senate compromise bill.
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September 28, 2009 01:45 PM
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Amtrak is a federally subsidized transportation system to the tune of $1.6 billion dollars and should NOT have the authority to restrict our 2nd amendment rights if they wish to continue to be subsidized.
The proposal passed by the Senate doesn't give the right for CCW permit holders to jump on board with a handcannon strapped to thie side though.
It is a clear proposal allowing passengers who are permitted to transport firearms provided that they declare they are doing so and that the arms are unloaded and in a securely locked container.
No different then the policies that the major airlines operate by.
This proposal only reverts Amtrak to its pre 9-11 policy, which should never of changed in the first place.
It is not the responsible gun owner who has thier weapons declared, unloaded and secured in a locked container that people riding Amtak need to worry about, its the nut-job with a ied taped to their crotch sitting next to you that is the problem.
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September 28, 2009 02:51 PM
Airline passengers are already allowed to carry guns, as long as they are declared. Train passengers currently cannot carry guns in checked baggage and that is what this whole senate vote was about. My personal feeling is that there are many travelers that do not carry gun's on aircraft since it is a more secure environment. Opening this up to train passengers will more then likely lead to more gun's being transported and eventually a rise in gun related crime.
It is quite easy to purchase a train ticket, check on a bag, and jump on...not much security is involved. Now then, if someone has malicious thoughts in their mind then naturally they will choose the easy method to transport the hand gun and do what they desire.
Not a good idea....a lot of controls need to be put in place before we have a rise in crime on our hands.
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September 28, 2009 03:59 PM
This is a foolish attempt to get votes by the Senators from pro-gun states. The same voters, of course, who do not use trains or even want the trains to continue to exist. What it amounts to is an unfunded mandate to build an unecessary security and secure carrying system for guns by the already hard pressed railroad. Have you traveled Amtrak lately? Outside the northeast corridor for commuters the trains have dwindled to a few cars and few passengers. The number of people wanting to bring their hunting guns on a train trip is probably near zero but Amtrak would be saddled with building the infrastructure at their stations and on their trains somehow.
Amtrak needs and should get much more funding and help to become a more popular transportation choice. It is very efficient in passengers per amount of fuel, when the trains are reasonably full. But it is slower and made unreliable by the right of way rules favoring the freight trains. And they don't have the money for advertising or the ability to offer discounts to help fill the trains.
Worrying about getting votes from the gun lobby over something that's dogma rather than a practical need is the last thing the government should be doing about mass transit.
Hopefully the provision will be killed in the House-Senate compromise bill.
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