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M$1 December 17, 2008 06:04 AM

Do Senators who blocked the Automaker Bailout stand to benefit from the American brands failure?

We understand the Automaker Bailout was stopped by a group of Republicans...
"The Senate rejected the bailout 52-35 on a procedural vote — well short of the 60 required — after the talks fell apart. Just 10 Republicans joined 40 Democrats and two independents in backing it. Three Democrats sided with 31 Republicans in opposition. Reid also voted "no" for procedural reasons."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gbjFY-o07QeryRxtFR3oC1w_v1PwD95112A80

What is interesting is how much money these senators have distributed to the foreign automakers who make refuge within their States, as the Washington Independent has documented here.
http://washingtonindependent.com/22236/cars

Do you think these Senators that are doing business with foreign auto companies benefit from blocking the Detroit bailout and effectively crippling the three companies that helped build America?
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December 17, 2008 06:10 AM
Bailing out is BS and doesn't work. The problem needs much more money that we just don't have. (See all attached articles)

Check out fdrs.org for more information of how the Bankers are robbing everyone. It's all just one big fraud.

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Well, you should know that the fault... The people who created this mess were the bankers. They had to print out money to pay for the dead loans, and loan that out to make more money, and pay off dead loans on that.. It's a never ending cycle. + INTEREST. They tricked us into allowing them in our government, and this is what they have created for us. Economic Slavery.
You see, regular slavery requires you to feed the slaves. Economic Slavery requires the slaves to feed themselves. If it had not been for them, we would not be competing for jobs with other people, there would be enough to survive on. It's their doing.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/29/fed-pumps-further-630-bil_n_130289...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aiq3I0o_SHA

http://fdrs.org/


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December 17, 2008 06:25 AM
Yes, I think it's very easy to dismiss the bailout, but on the flip side having three major auto corporations go under at once...would be an absolute disaster and economic disaster I personally don't want to see happen I can't fathom how many will be lost in America.

The question was however, Do Senators who blocked the Automaker Bailout stand to benefit from the American brands failure?

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December 17, 2008 06:14 AM
That would depend on what part of the country you are a senator from bud.

If you live in Detroit well..

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December 17, 2008 06:14 AM
I can't say whether they stand to benefit or not. You have to look at who's paying for their campaigns and how they stand to win or lose from an auto bailout. While you're doing that, do the same for all the people who voted for the bailout. A good rule of thumb is that politicians rarely vote against their own personal best interest, no matter how they try to spin things. Foreign auto interests in the Southern states are being blamed for the "No" votes. However, even the foreign automakers have said it would be better *for them* if the Big Three were to receive some help to stay afloat. This is because a GM failure would likely put some big parts suppliers out of business that make parts for all big automakers, foreign and domestic, and this would in turn disrupt their ability to bring their own products to market.

Even though all of the auto companies seem to be in favor of a bailout, at some point we need to step back and allow the free market to run its course. The auto industry isn't doing so great right now. Few industries are. Retailers are closing stores left and right, tech companies are laying off employees, and the list goes on. Even if the government could bail out every company that is falling on hard times, they would just be passing an even bigger bill to people in the future. I think we all need to think long and hard about asking for a handout from the government if it means our grandkids will have to pay dearly for it down the road in terms of higher taxes and higher inflation.
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http://money.cnn.com/2008/12/15/news/companies/overseas_automakers/?postver...


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December 17, 2008 06:16 AM
Don't ask why WOULDN'T they bail them out. Ask why WOULD they bail them out?

The leaders of these failing businesses drove their companies into the ground while making millions. Why should they be bailed out anymore than a small family owned business who actually managed their business well but just fell upon hard times? No.

We must not bail these companies out with billions of taxpayer dollars! Besides, it's not like it's going to make anyone want their cars anymore than they do now.

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December 17, 2008 06:22 AM
Well, some prominent economists like Prof. Marty Feldstein have been saying that managed bankruptcy may be a better option for the automakers. And I'm inclined to agree. Bankruptcy forces companies to restructure and does not necessarily lead to unemployment either. I think the bailout would just fix the problem temporarily and prolong the inevitable. Auto companies are badlly managed and have horrible business plans, designs, and have not been responding to the market for years. Why spend taxpayer money on a dud?
You could argue that the government might even make a profit from bailing out the banks but bailing out the car companies is just a horrible idea.
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http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/12/interview-with-marty.html


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December 17, 2008 06:27 AM
I agree with this, whatever happened to bankruptcy? it almost felt like the Automakers thought they could swing in on the coattails of the Banks and get the same type of money.

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December 17, 2008 06:56 AM
Does the government interfering in corporate competition qualify the US as a communist nation? I think so.

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December 17, 2008 08:36 AM
I think you might be confused as Automakers did not build America, American Workers who were employed did. American auto workers at double and triple the pay of auto workers working for Toyota and etc in USA is not a sustainable business or viable in the near future.

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December 17, 2008 05:04 PM
Republican Senators like Mitch McConnell and Bob Corker and know that the Democratic leadership and the White House will not let GM and Chrysler go under, so they have a "free vote" in opposing the plan. It enables them to strike a populist pose, because they know there's a lot of sentiment against any and all corporate bailouts.

This is precisely the sort of posturing and political game-playing that has gotten them defeat after defeat from fed up voters.

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December 17, 2008 06:33 PM
I don't think they benefit enough for it to be affecting their decisions. The fact is, the big three auto makers have been running a failed business model including creating too many big gas guzzlers for too long. They put themselves in this position.

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December 20, 2008 04:23 AM
Of course they benefit, having nonunion auto factories of competing makes in their states; eliminating the competition and the unions in one move is going to make them very popular back home.

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