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M$1 January 14, 2009 02:52 AM

Should Jonathan Bruce Reed be set free?

TX man who was convicted of rape and murder almost 30 years ago and has been on death row ever since. An appeals court said that blacks were unfairly excluded from the jury pool so, if he isn't retried, he will be let go.

Then again, several witnesses pegged him for the crime.

How is justice best served in this case?
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January 14, 2009 03:13 AM
Okay, when I read your question I immediately thought that Reed was black. However, he is not. While this should not make a difference, to me it does.
http://z.about.com/d/crime/1/0/4/l/reedj.jpg

Reed was identified by THREE people as the killer--including a woman who managed to survive his attack. While blacks may have been unfairly excluded from the jury pool, he was still convicted by a jury of his peers. Does anyone really believe he would have gotten off if there were some black jurors?

I hope he is retried, if necessary, and that the people who illegally excluded blacks from the jury 30 years ago are forced to do some MAJOR community service (I'd say jail, but haven't they cost us enough money and at least with CS they are doing some good for a change.)


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January 14, 2009 03:18 AM
Thanks for adding the pic.

Do you think that his race should be mentioned on the page, or do you think that the picture does a good enough job to explain this, even though the picture is more subtle?

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January 14, 2009 03:24 AM
I think his race should be mentioned on the page. If he was black, I would be much more inclined to releasing him. (30 years ago an all white jury could have been prejudiced against an a black defendant.) However, since he is white, I don't believe there was any prejudice involved.

The case is riding the shirt-tails of Thomas Miller-El, who obviously may have been hurt by having an all white jury 30 years ago:

http://msnbcmedia4.msn.com/j/msnbc/Components/Photos/050613/050613_miller_file_9a.widec.jpg

He has since plea bargained to have a life sentence.

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January 14, 2009 03:03 AM
It would be impossible to have a fair trial after 30 years.
30 years is a long jail sentence to have served.
That is probably enough.

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January 14, 2009 03:21 AM
You know, after 30 years and looking death in the face, somehow I doubt this guy is going to go and rape and murder more people as soon as he's set free (since how are you going to have a fair trial decades later? Are all the witnesses from before able and willing to testify again?). There is something to be said for the integrity of a fair trial to begin with (which he didn't have, thanks to the racial division), so I'm going to say yes, he should go free if he can't be given a fair trial presently, though why this wasn't address years ago is beyond me. It's not like segregation ended six months ago.

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January 14, 2009 03:36 AM
It's unfortunate that the only way we can address unfairness in things like jury selection is to invalidate an otherwise appropriate outcome. But I guess the philosophy is that the system of protections keeping innocents free is more important than making sure that every guilty person is convicted.

I agree with that principle, but this case seems to test the limits for me. The man in question was not black, and even if he was, he doesn't have a right to have any particular racial composition on his jury.

The harmed party in this case where the black jurors who were excluded. The fact that they were not allowed to fully participate in the judicial system is an abridgment of their status as citizens. I see that. What I don't see is how freeing this guy is in any way compensation for what was done to them.

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January 14, 2009 03:39 AM
I agree with this answer.

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January 14, 2009 04:24 AM
Given that he's white, I fail to see how his likelihood of being convicted would have increased just because there weren't any blacks on the jury. If anything having blacks may have worked against him, as the theory is generally that juries are less likely to convict a defendant if they identify with him. The direct implication of this is that his chances would have been improved by having an all-white jury.
To me (and I'm not American, so I'm not quite sure if this is possible, but hey, I've watched Boston Legal and Alan Shore went to the Supreme Court), justice would be best served by the prosecutors appealing the Court of Appeals decision. The decision to do this or not should be separate to whether or not you believe 30 years is an appropriate sentence anyway. We in the general community also don't know what this guy is still like, so who amongst us knows whether or not 30 years is enough to sort him out and rehabilitate him.
Disclaimer: All my comments are prefaced on the belief that he did commit the crime for which he was convicted - he's got a scary looking face so he must of done it.

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January 14, 2009 01:56 PM - New Source
In this case, the jury manual instructed lawyers not to seat blacks because they would be more sympathetic to the accused.

Whether or not this was actually the case is not something that was addressed by the appeals court. The perception apparently was that, if blacks were seated on the jury, the accused chances for aquittal would go up. Which means he may not have gotten a fair trial.

Also, Texas is notorious for trampling over the rights of the accused. See link below.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/execution/readings/texas.html

Just some thoughts. I appreciate your disclaimer, though :)

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