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Morality Question - If there are two guys on a life boat and one guy is hurt and dying, but not dead - is it ok for the other to eat him....

...even if he's not dead?
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September 26, 2009 05:34 AM
The answer is most emphatically "no", as it is against the common law of both Great Britain and the USA. The "leading" case was from 1884, and occurred on the ship Mignonette which sank. There were survivors and one volunteered to be eaten. Upon being later rescued, and the court agreeing that solely by eating the flesh of their mate did they survive, the UK Court still found them guilty of murder and cannibalism and sentenced the two survivors to death. But, their sentence was later commuted to 6 months imprisonment.
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September 26, 2009 05:38 AM
I like your answer but I think you have to try to put yourself into the situation a little more. Law probably isn't on your mind when you're in survival mode. The fact that the two survivors would be the only witnesses would be enough for that to not be an issue. It's only an issue an a less desperate situation.

I feel like a question of morality has to be answered outside of the confines of law. In order to answer a moral question I feel like you have to assume that you can get away with it.

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September 26, 2009 05:46 AM
Since this question is in the Legal section, it comes under law and not morality, since those are completely different animals. I am not an expert in morality and do not claim to be. I merely provide what is the best known law..and admittedly an interesting quirk, since the "victim" volunteered.

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September 28, 2009 01:13 AM
Fair enough, I'm just saying that it says its a morality question and I don't think it takes an expert to express moral views.

If I still had the edit option I would change mine to focus more on morality. I might even take down the awesome picture to appease the moms down there.

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September 26, 2009 01:22 AM
I say no. The law would more likely put you in jail for murder. Also If ate him after he died you would more likely be murder charges away. They would saw that you are not a doctor and can not judge he was dead.
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September 28, 2009 01:02 AM
No. For so many reasons they'll have to be counted after I finish listing them.

1) It's imoral to eat *any* animal while still alive.

Those guys who think it's funny to spoon the brains out of a living monkey are just sick...

There's people in south-east asia who like to catch monekys, then stick their head up through a hole in the middle of a table, and slice off the skull cap, and then they smile while they spoon little bites of the screaming monkey's brain out to eat it raw.

They deserve what they're likely to get... which is to get even more sick from prion infection for not having cooked it, which leads us to prions, which cause alzheimer's disease, because prions are to be found in great abundance in raw primate brains (and raw deer brains, and raw squirel brains...)

2) It's unhealthy. If canibalism were legal, human flesh would never pass the scrutiny of heath safety inspectors. We're too high up the food chain, and our tissue is too loaded with heavy metals and dioxins and everything else like that to be safe to eat.

Have you ever wonderd why carnivours like bears and tigers only eat humans as a last resort? It's because they have very good senses of smell, and to them, we smell like we can only smell each other when someone hasn't had a bath in a week, plus they can smell the poisons in our tissue from all the industrial food we eat combined with being at the top of a food chain.

We are just *not* a tasty species. Even vultures gag when faced with a human corpse.

Let me make it more plain... the difference in quality between human flesh compared to that of beef is the same as the quality of difference between human feces and cow manure.

In any case, even if one were to choose to eat human flesh, you're still insane unless you can cook it, which guys in a life raft probably cannot.

3) It's illegal to eat humans, so if you survive, and it's figured out how you survived, then you're going to jail. Period.

But then they'll plead "need to survive", and here's where it shows you just how idiotically stupid those guys were if that one fellow figured he had to sacrifice himelf to be eaten and the others did it:

4) You can use human flesh as fish bait, and you can use the bones as spears and hooks, you can make fishing line out of stretched, dried gut, and you can make hooks out of the teeth.

Raw fish are safer to eat, they definitly taste better than raw mammal, and you can wring slightly salty but potable water that will keep you alive from salt-water fish-flesh wrung out in a rag, made from something like from your t-shirt.

If I was in a boat with some other people at sea, and I knew I was going to die, I'd explain to them how to remove the teeth and turn them into hooks, and how to stretch out and dry the gut to turn it into fishing line, and how to form the bones into speers and fishing poles for holding the lines made from dried gut with hooks made from teeth baited with a piece of the tongue.

After all, that's all *I* was using that body for... something to move around in and use as a vessel for survival. I used the bones and muscles in the arm to kill and eat game, so go ahead and let it continue to be used that way.

I would just ask them to save the skull, and don't do anything weird with the brains.

Wrap the brains in something, like my underwear... you're not going to want to keep my underwear... then let go of it gently into the water, and let it sink away...

... there *might* be some soul-spirit kind'a essense still connected to the brain in some metaphysical way, and I don't want it being shattered and broken apart by you guys hacking it up for bait!

As for the skull... that's for my relatives, so they can have something to do their ceremony around, however they want (bury it, cremate it, I don't care... it's for them).

The rest of that corpus was a biological machine with tools like arms and fingers for survival, so go ahead and use it as biological machinery and tools for survival.

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September 28, 2009 01:10 AM
I would vote best answer on this if the question didn't preface its self with "morality question." You need to expand on #1. You spend a lot of time on law and health. I love #4 though. Very creative. You just have be careful with the parasites on the raw fish.

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September 28, 2009 01:31 AM
Okay, I took out the prefacing of the "morality" question, and I expanded on #1, and yes, I know about the parasites from fish, but they take a long time to get you... people can live with fish parasites for years, hopefully by which time they'll be back to civilization, whereupon, there are pills you can take to kill fish parasites.

Japanese normally take fish-parasite pills about once a year just in case they've eaten some sashimi that wasn't frozen first.

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