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M$1 February 06, 2009 10:46 PM

Is 16 too young for the sex change Kim Petras had, and should every guy she dates know she was once a boy?

Do you see this as a problem with dating or future relationships? Does she look like a boy anymore or at all, and would you be able to tell if you did not know? If you are a straight guy, would you be able to date her knowing she was once a boy? Why or why not?
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February 07, 2009 12:14 AM
I do think a person at 16 knows what they really want in life. And yes I believe she should tell every man or woman she dates. It could cause some really bad psychological problems to her partners if she doesn't.

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February 14, 2009 01:54 PM
Why has this been posted in cosmetic surgery? Kim has never had "cosmetic" surgery, there was no need for any of that as the doctors caught the problem before puberty so she never changed in a way that might need cosmetic surgery to correct. The only surgery she has had AFAIK was to correct her physical sex.

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February 15, 2009 06:45 AM
Any elective surgery that changes your body in cosmetic I think.

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February 07, 2009 12:12 AM
Biologically speaking, if you are going to change sex it would probably be better to do it as young as possible i.e. before puberty so that you don't end up looking like a cross-dresser (not that there's anything wrong with that). I guess the problem is stating at what age it is appropriate. I feel that there is no real cut off age. If your kid thinks he/she wants a sex change you should probably consult a psychiatrist to confirm whether he/she needs it or not.

As for the girl in question, I don't really see that it is any of their business what her sex was. But that question is academic surely, at least in her country? And no she doesn't look like a boy.
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February 14, 2009 02:46 PM
16 is definitely NOT too young. In my country you can get married at 16, join the army and go to war, have sex etc Aren't these also big decisions that require responibility and are potentially life changing? Yet I don't hear people go on about them.

What other medical conditions should we leave for a few years? Chemotherapy is surely a big decision too isn't it?

Obviously this surgery is irreversible but then so is puberty.
I think it's VERY obvious the right decision was made in this case and Kim had 4 years to decide, as she was living as a girl since the age of 12.

As to whether guys she dates should know she "was once a boy" (Kim would say she was always a girl I'm sure), the answer is definitely Yes. I mean it's been on the front of newspapers, on TV, all over the internet, if they don't know by now they are clearly out of touch with the world and what is happening around them. As such they shouldn't be dating Kim in the first place, she is better than that.

Such boys need lessons in basic IT literacy, such as how to use google etc or possibly even how to read, they should not be allowed to date Kim.

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February 07, 2009 01:55 PM
Biologically this will make her transition amazingly successful, because she had not yet produced the testosterone to masculinise to a significant degree. This way with hormonal therapy she will be indistinguishable in appearance from a biological woman, and that will be a great help to her in adjusting as she won't have to deal with the ridicule from people who don't understand.

So, basically, I think this is a good age to do it if she has the conviction, and clearly she did. Even 16 year olds don't ask for sex changes without thinking it through first.

Yes I could date her, but I'm bisexual and female so I don't count.

At this age it probably doesn't matter, but when she's in her 20s having more serious relationships I think she should tell people, but only to alert them to the fact that she can't have children. I also think that it might be better for her emotional health if she told all her future boyfriends, or it might turn into a 'dirty secret' that it doesn't need to be.

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February 07, 2009 04:52 PM
So, they can change everything, but the fact that she can't have children remains. I guess this is one thing they have yet to figure out. Do you think they ever will figure it out?

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February 07, 2009 05:59 PM
@easyeboy: Ever is a long, long time so I'm unwilling to bet on it. I don't it's likely in our lifetimes though.

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February 08, 2009 02:17 AM
I think they might make it possible to carry A child (not THEIR child), but it could take a LONG time. Just making the womb is not enough, and they haven't even figured that out yet. Pregnancy is an incredibly complex process controlled by the mothers hormones, and they change so subtly and any change can make such a big difference that unless they can basically control the transsexual's hormones 24/7 to make them exactly like those of a pregnant women in whatever stage of pregnancy they stand no chance. They would miscarry.

And even then I'm talking about IVF of someone else's fertilised eggs in a fake, or transplanted womb. The ovaries, well I'm just not sure that can be done at all. Eggs and sperm are too different.

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February 09, 2009 07:23 PM
i know she was a boy but i still love her who cares if she was a boy. she's better off as a girl. if i could i would like to be a girl also it sucks to be a boy.

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February 14, 2009 02:01 PM
I think Kim would argue that she wasn't a boy to start with. She only changed her physical sex not who she was.

If someone felt that way, then it is possible to help them. There are often people with their own agendas who stand in their way but Kim is proof that it is possible to make things happen.

It's a big decision to make of course but it should be up to people like Kim to make that choice. It is her life and she is responsible for her own choices and actions.

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