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Would it be possible to build a computer into a phone? Yes, it's quite possible, and I'd say it's already been done for many years now, depending upon your definition and requirements of a "computer." Today's cellphones definitely have a lot of processing power to handle a lot of capabilities.
One only needs to look at many devices, such as smartphones/pdas, iphones, htcs, etc. to see this.
Of course, it depends upon what you expect or want from your system as far as processing power and capabilities go, and as stated in other responses.. cost can be an issue too. Another key issue is power consumption. Hardware drivers can also be a significant barrier to adapting 3rd party devices; a lot of hardware is put out with only proprietary drivers for MS Windows of one flavor or another which is not the best OS for most low-power portable devices, and getting specs to write your own driver, or code to existing drivers can be difficult if not impossible.
You may want to look up various projects and concepts such as "Wearable Computers" and "ubiquitous computing".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wearable_computer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquitous_computing
Of course, your question revolves around the ability to just plug-in your phone to a home non-portable 'base station'. With such a device, this would be at least a bit easier. If the designer of the phone and the designer of the base station was the same company, it would be a no-brainer.
One of the big things that a lot of small/portable device manufacturers don't do is they tend not to enable the HOST features of the USB chipset, or don't include chips with them at all. Most of the time, PDAs, smartphones, and other similar devices only allow you to use external devices such as portable keyboards. Many portable devices already have mini or micro USB ports.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_controller_interface
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Of course many phones, pdas, and the like have significant ability to add significant amounts of storage fairly cheaply or add components with various flash memory slots (SD, mini & micro SD, CF, SDIO, etc.)
With that in mind, I think a key desire you might be having in relation to this, is the ability to have your data with you always accessible, and integration of your computing environment.. use the phone's screen when you're out for processing, and net access, and when you get home simply plug it into your desktop computing components for integration with your computing devices. This is quite possible with today's technology, even if a simple pre-existing solution isn't currently available on the market.
As far as portable computing smaller than a laptop or netbook, many people have taken to rolling their own solutions, such as adapting and adding to rather popular platforms such as the nokia internet tablets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Internet_Tablet
There are semi-battery powered USB hubs like the CyberPower 420MP
http://www.amazon.com/Cyberpower-CP-H420MP-USB-Hub-Battery-Powered/dp/B0002UQALQ
There are many different types of USB and other portable devices such as: usb ethernet adapters http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=589 , usb modems http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Data-Modem-V-92-Kflex56/dp/B00008AWL0 , and usb DSL mini-modems. http://www.motorola.com/Business/XC-EN/Product+Lines/Netopia/Netopia_3300_Series_ADSL2_USBMiniModem_Loc%253AXU-EN%252CXC-EN%252CXM-EN%252CXE-EN%252CXN-EN%252CPK-EN%252CXF-EN As already stated, the question is really still one of whether a device has the power (both energy, and processing power), as well as the software drivers to utilize and drive such devices.
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morriss003
- Price: $1500 (ouch!)
- Battery life - if you use it as a computer, there is an issue if the battery is flat and you want to make a phone call.
- Shape - a bit odd feeling holding 8.1x5.1x1.0 inches device and put it on the ear to make a phone call (although there is a headset)
- The processor speed - as the "phone" needs to be small, the processor has to be low speed (ULV). Otherwise, heat is an issue.
Source(s):
HTC Shift Product Page
http://www.htc.com/www/product/shift/overview.html
CNET HTC Shift Review
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/htc-shift/4505-3121_7-32465614.html
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However, why hasn't anyone done this. Thing is, wouldn't it be a little over the top? Firstly, to produce something like this would be very costly - especially if they wanted the phone to be light and compact. Otherwise you would be holding a similar phone to that of the twentieth century.
As well, the biggest question is portability. Phone's are meant to be used as portable devices - on the go. If you are willing to take a hard drive, monitor, mouse, keyboard and DVD player and other devices with you wherever you go - that's fine. However, phone's try and incoportate these things into one device to avoid this.
Touch screens (mouse), keyboards, large amounts of storage and SD card expansion slots for more DVDs to be played. The screen's are large so you can enjoy a comfortable viewing experience.
However, your idea is good. Now, how would they do it?
Simple. They would have to put a USB slot onto the phone - this can then have a multiple USB slot device (with six slots) to make room for a keyboard, mouse, monitor, hard drive and DVD.
However, doesn't it seem a bit strange - that everything is being done to just use the phone feature. Instead - all this hassle could be reduced to just getting a headphone set and Skype!
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2009/hp/44567320/sc001.jpg
The Sony Ericsson Idou (pictured above) is a phone which you should be looking out for. With masses of features - from a 12.1 megapixel camera, on screen keyboard and touch screen. It also has SD card expansion slot. As for DVDs - with its mass of memory, you can have as many as you want and enjoy on a 3.5" screen. For more information see http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_idou-2683.php
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Why not just use the cloud? My movies are on YouTube and Hulu, my pictures are saved to flickr, my music is local.
About the only thing missing is a good keyboard for data entry. And those are coming ... they already exist if you are willing to jailbreak your iPhone.
With how fast all of this is moving I think that long term your iPhone/Pre/Storm will be just as functional as a desktop because most of your stuff is "out there".
Now. Where is my flying car!?!?
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http://www.tuaw.com/2009/03/24/iphone-external-keyboard-without-jailbreakin...
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When the word "computer" is typed into www.dictionary.com, the following is displayed:
"Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations."
Any cellphone or smart phone fits this definition in that they can accept data (phone numbers, pictures, ect.), perform logical operations (calling someone, sending a text, using its calculator, ect.), and display the results.
Likewise, notebooks and netbooks can make phone calls if the appropriate software is installed (skype, for instance). And with netbooks getting smaller and phones getting bigger to accomodate large screens, the size gap between the two is decreasing rapidly.
So, yes, you could build a computer into a phone, but then it wouldn't be a "phone", it would be a "netbook."
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/computer
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M$1
April 08, 2009 09:49 AM
Would it be possible to build a computer into a phone?
Suppose the phone had a USB port that you could plug into a USB hub. You could connect your keyboard, mouse, monitor, hard drive and DVD to the hub. And if the phone had wi-fi...
What are the technical problems that might prevent this?
What are the technical problems that might prevent this?
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| April 08, 2009 12:41 PM |
One only needs to look at many devices, such as smartphones/pdas, iphones, htcs, etc. to see this.
Of course, it depends upon what you expect or want from your system as far as processing power and capabilities go, and as stated in other responses.. cost can be an issue too. Another key issue is power consumption. Hardware drivers can also be a significant barrier to adapting 3rd party devices; a lot of hardware is put out with only proprietary drivers for MS Windows of one flavor or another which is not the best OS for most low-power portable devices, and getting specs to write your own driver, or code to existing drivers can be difficult if not impossible.
You may want to look up various projects and concepts such as "Wearable Computers" and "ubiquitous computing".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wearable_computer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquitous_computing
Of course, your question revolves around the ability to just plug-in your phone to a home non-portable 'base station'. With such a device, this would be at least a bit easier. If the designer of the phone and the designer of the base station was the same company, it would be a no-brainer.
One of the big things that a lot of small/portable device manufacturers don't do is they tend not to enable the HOST features of the USB chipset, or don't include chips with them at all. Most of the time, PDAs, smartphones, and other similar devices only allow you to use external devices such as portable keyboards. Many portable devices already have mini or micro USB ports.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_controller_interface
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Of course many phones, pdas, and the like have significant ability to add significant amounts of storage fairly cheaply or add components with various flash memory slots (SD, mini & micro SD, CF, SDIO, etc.)
With that in mind, I think a key desire you might be having in relation to this, is the ability to have your data with you always accessible, and integration of your computing environment.. use the phone's screen when you're out for processing, and net access, and when you get home simply plug it into your desktop computing components for integration with your computing devices. This is quite possible with today's technology, even if a simple pre-existing solution isn't currently available on the market.
As far as portable computing smaller than a laptop or netbook, many people have taken to rolling their own solutions, such as adapting and adding to rather popular platforms such as the nokia internet tablets. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_Internet_Tablet
There are semi-battery powered USB hubs like the CyberPower 420MP
http://www.amazon.com/Cyberpower-CP-H420MP-USB-Hub-Battery-Powered/dp/B0002UQALQ
There are many different types of USB and other portable devices such as: usb ethernet adapters http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_slc.asp?CatId=589 , usb modems http://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Data-Modem-V-92-Kflex56/dp/B00008AWL0 , and usb DSL mini-modems. http://www.motorola.com/Business/XC-EN/Product+Lines/Netopia/Netopia_3300_Series_ADSL2_USBMiniModem_Loc%253AXU-EN%252CXC-EN%252CXM-EN%252CXE-EN%252CXN-EN%252CPK-EN%252CXF-EN As already stated, the question is really still one of whether a device has the power (both energy, and processing power), as well as the software drivers to utilize and drive such devices.
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April 08, 2009 06:19 PM
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April 08, 2009 10:07 AM
This has been attempted by HTC on a hybrid mini laptop and phone. The not so good points about it: - Price: $1500 (ouch!)
- Battery life - if you use it as a computer, there is an issue if the battery is flat and you want to make a phone call.
- Shape - a bit odd feeling holding 8.1x5.1x1.0 inches device and put it on the ear to make a phone call (although there is a headset)
- The processor speed - as the "phone" needs to be small, the processor has to be low speed (ULV). Otherwise, heat is an issue.
Source(s):
HTC Shift Product Page
http://www.htc.com/www/product/shift/overview.html
CNET HTC Shift Review
http://reviews.cnet.com/laptops/htc-shift/4505-3121_7-32465614.html
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April 08, 2009 10:25 AM
Unless you use Skype - the HTC Shift is not a phone. It was a good try but sadly - they lost out on the UMPC race.
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April 08, 2009 10:23 AM
This idea is very clever, so well done morriss003! However, why hasn't anyone done this. Thing is, wouldn't it be a little over the top? Firstly, to produce something like this would be very costly - especially if they wanted the phone to be light and compact. Otherwise you would be holding a similar phone to that of the twentieth century.
As well, the biggest question is portability. Phone's are meant to be used as portable devices - on the go. If you are willing to take a hard drive, monitor, mouse, keyboard and DVD player and other devices with you wherever you go - that's fine. However, phone's try and incoportate these things into one device to avoid this.
Touch screens (mouse), keyboards, large amounts of storage and SD card expansion slots for more DVDs to be played. The screen's are large so you can enjoy a comfortable viewing experience.
However, your idea is good. Now, how would they do it?
Simple. They would have to put a USB slot onto the phone - this can then have a multiple USB slot device (with six slots) to make room for a keyboard, mouse, monitor, hard drive and DVD.
However, doesn't it seem a bit strange - that everything is being done to just use the phone feature. Instead - all this hassle could be reduced to just getting a headphone set and Skype!
http://asia.cnet.com/i/r/2009/hp/44567320/sc001.jpg
The Sony Ericsson Idou (pictured above) is a phone which you should be looking out for. With masses of features - from a 12.1 megapixel camera, on screen keyboard and touch screen. It also has SD card expansion slot. As for DVDs - with its mass of memory, you can have as many as you want and enjoy on a 3.5" screen. For more information see http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_idou-2683.php
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April 08, 2009 06:12 PM
I imagine a future where a guy untethers his phone at the end of the work day. The phone has a 200g ssd with all of his apps. His data is in the cloud. He goes home and plugs his phone into his hub, sits down, and continues to work. When he finishes, he turns off his phone. It starts recharging.
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April 08, 2009 06:25 PM
I would say in the very near future we will all be living in some virtual game. Microchips and robots could cope with our outside needs - and inside the game virtual communication, hobbies etc. would be easy.
Laughing out loud! We are turning into slobs...
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Laughing out loud! We are turning into slobs...
April 08, 2009 12:36 PM
The main problem is that, once I get an external hard drive, usb hub, external dvd ... why didn't I just get a computer? And sync my iPhone? Why not just use the cloud? My movies are on YouTube and Hulu, my pictures are saved to flickr, my music is local.
About the only thing missing is a good keyboard for data entry. And those are coming ... they already exist if you are willing to jailbreak your iPhone.
With how fast all of this is moving I think that long term your iPhone/Pre/Storm will be just as functional as a desktop because most of your stuff is "out there".
Now. Where is my flying car!?!?
Source(s):
http://www.tuaw.com/2009/03/24/iphone-external-keyboard-without-jailbreakin...
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April 08, 2009 06:15 PM
I like a mobile device, but I also like a full keyboard and big screen. The iphone is definitely in the direction that I am envisioning
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April 08, 2009 04:50 PM
I'd say many manufacturer's have already done so, but even the most successful of these devices suffers from at least 2 fatal flaws that prevent people from abandoning their laptops/desktops/netbooks for a completely hand-held existence:- Battery life
- Data speed
- Portability/pocket-ability
- Usability/versatility
- Screen size
- Security
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April 08, 2009 10:20 PM
Well, it depends on what you consider to be a "computer" and what you consider to be a "phone". When the word "computer" is typed into www.dictionary.com, the following is displayed:
"Also called processor. an electronic device designed to accept data, perform prescribed mathematical and logical operations at high speed, and display the results of these operations."
Any cellphone or smart phone fits this definition in that they can accept data (phone numbers, pictures, ect.), perform logical operations (calling someone, sending a text, using its calculator, ect.), and display the results.
Likewise, notebooks and netbooks can make phone calls if the appropriate software is installed (skype, for instance). And with netbooks getting smaller and phones getting bigger to accomodate large screens, the size gap between the two is decreasing rapidly.
So, yes, you could build a computer into a phone, but then it wouldn't be a "phone", it would be a "netbook."
Source(s):
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/computer
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