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M$1 February 13, 2009 05:50 PM

Was Rebecca Shaw the pilot of Flight 3407?

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February 13, 2009 05:55 PM
No, Rebecca Shaw was the First Officer of Flight 3407, Captain Marvin Renslow was the pilot of the flight in question.
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29179150/



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February 13, 2009 05:53 PM
rebecca shaw is the first officer of the flight 3407
source:http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/6261565.html

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February 13, 2009 06:02 PM
She was one of the pilots. Ms. Shaw was the First Officer, also known as the co-pilot, of this flight.

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February 13, 2009 06:08 PM
Flight 3407? I've been in a news black hole since I left work last night. (I work in news, so I tend to avoid it on off-hours.)

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February 13, 2009 06:47 PM
The crew members were identified as Capt. Marvin Renslow, pilot of the plane; Rebecca Shaw, first officer of the flight; and flight attendants Matilda Quintero and Donna Prisco.

Another employee of the airline, Capt. Joseph Zuffoletto, a Jamestown resident who was off-duty at the time, was also killed.

http://www.buffalonews.com/home/story/577959.html

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February 14, 2009 06:37 PM
Typical procedure is for the 2nd in command (in this case Rebecca Shaw) to have the controls during any flying off of auto-pilot, such as approaches and departures. Exceptions might be if they were having difficulty, but this particular incident happened so quickly that she was most likely at the controls when the emergency began, and the captain probably took over during the pitch and yaw oscillations before impact that have been reported by the NTSB. When and if they release the cockpit voice recordings listen for him to say 'I've got it' or words to that effect. That would confirm it.
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msnbc.com, nytimes.com, ntsb.gov, newsweek.com


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February 14, 2009 07:27 PM
Jimmyhisse-you obviously are not qualified to state anything related to commercial airline ops.. please keep your erroneous comments at the thought level, that way only you will know you're wrong. I'm sick of every idiot who has watched an airplane fly over becoming an aviation expert and spouting absolute garbage.

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February 16, 2009 07:47 PM
@positiverate Please keep your tone friendly and supportive. The community here at Mahalo is supportive and nurturing. I can understand your frustration with bad information on the internet, but there is no need to flame @jimmyhisself. you can get your point across without the aggressiveness or calling someone an idiot.

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May 18, 2009 02:48 AM
you are wrong - the PF (pilot flying) was the captain. The PNF (pilot not flying) was the FO (Shaw) and was running communications. That is the way it is most typically done - you are 100% backwards in your description

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February 14, 2009 07:30 PM
jimmyhisself; I don't think you are on track here. The co-pilot was talking to Air Traffic Control on the radio. She was most likely the non flying pilot unless Colgan Air does something different than the rest of the industry.
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21 years of aviation experience, over 10,000 hours of flight time, 7 years of operating experience flying aircraft for a major airline and 1 year with a small commuter as the basis for my answer.


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February 15, 2009 05:10 PM
Thanks for the correction trnsprt, you are right. I hadn't heard the voice recordings yet and didn't realize she was on the radio, which would put the Captain already on the controls.

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February 16, 2009 02:43 PM
In the airline industry one pilot is the flying pilot while the other operates the radios. The pilots swap duties with each leg they take, so every other flight the copilot flies the plane while the Captian operates the radios and navigates. This allows for a safer envoronment under high work loads. In this case Rabecca's voice is on the ATC tapes thus she was not the flying pilot.
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