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M$1 June 04, 2009 03:31 AM

Will Plugin Hybrid technology will probably become the choice for Low or Zero Emission regulation?

Will Emission regulation drive adoption of plugin hybrid technology?
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June 04, 2009 09:31 AM
Hybrid technology is a bridge towards pure electric.
Electric engines are much more simple and cheaper than combustion engines, only batteries are very expensive, but battery price is decreasing and in the future the production cost of an electric car will be lower than combustion and hybrid cars (hybrid means combustion+electric=the most expensive), this means that producers have already decided to go for electric because is convenient, because emission regulations will be impossible to respect with combustion technology and because users are demanding cheaper fuel vehicles.
Hybrid vehicles are produced to test the market and the technology (ie many smart electric drive have failures on the "electric" side, but the car can still go with the combustion engine), indeed the first toyota prius was expensive and ugly just to be not a best seller because the high production cost couldn't allow decent gain on sells, but market request surprisingly was much more that production capability that was a signal for how much is strong the market request for low consumption / cheap fuel vehicles.
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• A new Prize should be an EV capable capable of coast to coast commute.

If you could use the power of the atom, a tank of water is capable of enough energy for a 100,000 mile commute.


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June 04, 2009 07:04 PM
Electric cars have been touted by many as the ideal car but you have to keep in mind of the fact that 80% of the world's Lithium is in Bolivia. Making the country the Saudi Arabia of the electric car world. Which means that if Bolivia is upset with the US then they can cut off Lithium to America leading us right back to the same kind of issues we had with the Middle East but in South America.

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June 04, 2009 07:37 PM
Ultracapicators will probably replace batteries. Ultra caps can be recharged almost indefinitely. Evenually electricity storage will surpass the 1000 miles per charge and electric vehicles will dominate transportation.

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June 04, 2009 09:39 AM
I think there'll be a tug of war between regulators and car manufactures. We're in a time crunch, and governments can't ignore that they need to reduce Co2 levels fast, if they don't want an environmental crisis on their hands.

Plugin Hybrids are a necessary transition technology to full electric, in my opinion. And, as such, it will be very important. Not as a zero emission technology, but as a transitory technology to zero emission (full electric).
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June 04, 2009 07:02 AM
Plug in cars can simply reduce emissions. But the can never be 0 because you can't get something for nothing. Power plants still produce tons of CO2 but far less than a car for the same energy. So going electric is the first step, clean power plants is the next!

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June 04, 2009 04:38 PM
Solar and hydrogen produce a perpetual energy machine. Fusion is another perpetual energy machine. Energy supply shouldn't be a problem.

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June 04, 2009 07:11 PM
There actually is a supply problem with hydrogen. Hydrogen fuel has to be created either from natural gas(which does nothing to end the use of fossil fuels) or through electrolysis of water(with this method energy to produce the hydrogen is greater than the energy output of the hydrogen produced)

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June 04, 2009 07:20 PM
@ Davepamn

You do know that there is no such thing as perpetual motion? There is always energy in every operation. Nothing goes forever, without energy put in. Even our sun will run out of fuel!

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June 04, 2009 07:35 PM
The Earth is a perpetual motion machine. Explain the mechanics of the Universe, the power source is infinite. Of course there are perpetual motion machines.

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June 04, 2009 08:36 PM
@ Davepamn

Sure there is perpetual motion when it comes to the mechanics of the Universe but when it comes to humans and our level of technology such machines are impossible.

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June 05, 2009 12:09 AM
No you are wrong. Ask your science teacher.

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June 05, 2009 12:15 AM
Science is a guess. For example, explain black hole termal activity or dark matter and energy or quantum mechanics. So of this stuff, just is, no one knows why. Explain why the brain does not follow the second law of thermodynamics, entropy. Are sure science knows all the answers?

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June 04, 2009 07:23 PM
Plug-in technology is not emission free. The only way plug-in is emission free if that power that supplies it is solar, nuclear, wind, etc. With the current system, we are just changing where the emission is coming from. Instead of the car, it is coming from the coal plant that is powering the plug

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June 04, 2009 07:38 PM
Water to hydrogen technology is very interesting. There are a number of hydrogen generating technologies that are not zero or negative sum scenarios.

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