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M$1 October 29, 2009 10:52 PM

Toyota Tundra with terrible gas mileage

I have a 2009 (10,000 miles now) Toyota Tundra with the 4 liter V6.
I am not getting the EPA estimates of gas mileage in city or highway, of dozens of new vehicles I have bought over the years, I have but one time not achieved this or better. The dealer is claiming that the weight to engine size ratio is affecting this, however I do not believe them (they have told me other stories too). In fact I have a 20 year old motorhome with a smaller yet engine to weight ration that gets only one mile per gallon less.
Do I have a lemon and need to return it, or is there anything I can do?
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October 30, 2009 01:56 AM
Usually, new trucks nowadays aren't fuel efficient. What the dealer told you is quite true. In order for your truck to run better, a bigger engine is needed otherwise, similar to older trucks that roars every time the engine is running.

Have you tried cheaper fuel efficient cars? For instance, an Isuzu Crosswind. It's an SUV yet fuel efficient compared to its other competitors. It has smaller engine and wow, from a little far, you would hear it's engine as if it's crying for help. Why? Because compared to a typical car, it's a little heavier yet it has smaller engine. The engine somehow exerts effort in working with the car.

If you really opt for better mileage, maybe choose a different car. How did you buy Tundra? If you can have it swapped if you really want to, then try choosing some other cars. But think about it first. Tundra are pretty good trucks.

By the way, I like Tundra. :) I like trucks! ^^

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November 02, 2009 12:16 AM
I really appreciate the answers, however I really need some points to improve my mileage or if this endemic to this truck in particular.

In my years of running a small business that requires a real truck that can of late double as a family car, I have only once had this problem and that was with a Nissan Truck (this truck was truly a lemon as it burned oil from day one, burned its clutch within 24,000 miles, and was vastly under powered). This truck has none of the problems this previous truck had but for the poor gas mileage and maybe a poor transmission.

I should also note that I have had small trucks, up to large trucks, most with the smallest engines available in the vehicle I owned. However none of these trucks (but for the before mentioned Nissan) did not meet the stated fuel mileage and they usually exceeded it (in part due to my very conservative driving, and very regular care). This included an extended cab Silverado that had lower hp than this truck.

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October 30, 2009 02:13 AM
props to fallen_angel21 for a good answer, i'd just like to add a note about engines.. the most fuel efficient engines are large diesel engines. A larger engine gives better economy because they are capable of extracting more power from a given amount of fuel. Also, when you do need to speed up, a larger engine has the power to do it using less fuel, again simply by being bigger. superchargers also help at extracting more power from the same fuel, by further compressing the air into the engine. superchargers generally provide a very small amount of compression at low revs, but any extra helps

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October 30, 2009 03:40 AM
I need a bigger truck for my business that can double for a family car, and this truck with the large shell I added was the only one that fit the bill, as the GMC, Chevy, etc had a shorter bed with "suicide doors".
Sadly my previous T100 was almost as large in capacity of cargo (which is essential for my 1600 mile round trips to LA from Oregon), yet got markedly better mileage.
I would love to have a diesel, but at $10,000 more that was out of the question.
I wish they made this truck with a manual transmission (like my previous truck), which why I held off until almost 300,000 miles waiting for someoen in the auto industry to make such a thing in an affordable gas engine. Honestly for a computerized transmission, it is quite stupid as it shifts at very in appropriate time.

I like the truck in its roomyness inside (for my family of 5 and sometimes 6), comfort, looks, and much more, even power for the size of the engine (which is not why I bought it though), but as for the drive train, I wish I could have my old truck back as I have a hard time accepting this poorly designed transmission and 11 mpg city driving when a 12,000 lb, 20 year old motor home gets 10 mpg.

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