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Can you recommend a really great, reliable counter-top microwave for light to medium use?

Consumer reports has lots of microwaves that they've tested and recommend, but when you dig into the user reviews, they mostly report the microwaves ceasing to function in one way or another after anywhere from a few months to a few years, though I'm finding on average they stop working after just 12-18 months of use.

On the other hand, my grandma has had a Panasonic microwave for the better part of 28 years and it's still going strong. However, the Panasonic Inverter series of today seems to be the one causing the most causes for concern.

One brand I'm curious to try is Amana. They (Raytheon, actually, which acquired Amana) invented the microwave in 1947, so I figure they might know a thing or two about how to build one that lasts.
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garyallen | 1 year, 9 months ago
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I will be honest with you: choosing an appliance because of its name is pointless.

I sold major household appliances (in-wall microwaves, ovens & stoves, oven hoods, refrigerators and dishwashers) for over a year to property-management companies nationwide.

I believe the business was built on the premise of servicing apartments for turnovers & replacements.

For example, a fridge is a fridge. A contraption whose function is to keep things cold. Either it does or it doesn't. GE has a lower-price-point line, Hotpoint. Standing together in our warehouse, I was hard-pressed to find the difference between the two other than the name label (they may have offered more options for GE brand items, but they were the exact same thing.. Same for Whirlpool and Roper. Maytag's Magic Chef line is almost identical. Frigidaire only makes Frigidaire products, as far as I know. I believe that most GE/Hotpoint and Whirlpool/Roper laundry products, regardless of brand, are actually made by Whirlpool. Especially the stacking units.

As for the trusted Kenmore line by Sears--good luck finding a Kenmore factory. It's all items from other manufacturers, mostly GE and Whirlpool, re-branded.as "Kenmore." Their laundry is identical to Whirlpool.

Upscale selling points: GE, Whirlpool or Maytag. Perform the same functions but cost less: Hotpoint, Roper and Magic Chef.

But for tabletop items, they may be licensing use of their name. The manufacturer may have no relation to product itself. I believe I have a Magic Chef microwave that has nothing to do with Maytag.

Wal-Mart lists the GE 1.1 cu ft. as their top rated, followed by a Sanyo 0.7 cu. ft, a Danby 0.6 cu. ft., a Sharp 2.0 cu. ft and a Magic Chef 1.3 cu. ft. and a Panasonic 2.2 cu. ft model.

Just on those results alone, it depends on what you want. You can go from as small as 0.6 cu. ft to as large as a 2.2 cu. ft.

The microwave I have is an older version of the Magic Chef 1.1 cu. ft, pictured below, which is a little further down the list. It was online for $59. Mine is easily 15, almost 20 years old. That's 1990 to 1995--hardly seems that long ago, but it is.

If I were you, i would sooner purchase the one that fits my needs and costs the least--they're all going to meet the minimum basic requirement of "Microwave Oven." Raytheon's Dr. Spencer figured that out, and there are still some ham-radio enthusists who will use the two ends of the microwave oven if they still work, and make a point-to-point communication device with them. Microwaves are also still used in Studio-to-Transmitter links (STLs) in broadcasting (see sources)

More technically:

"All electromagnetic energy can be characterized as waves with a specific wavelength and frequency distributed over a continuous range known as the electromagnetic spectrum. For example, some radio waves have a wavelength of 6 feet (12 meters) and a frequency of 50 million hertz (Hz-cycles per second). Visible light waves have a wavelength of 400 to 700 millimicrons, and typical X-rays have a length of 0.01 millimicrons and a frequency of 30 x 10¹² millions.

Microwaves (short waves or high frequency radio waves) are the shortest of radio waves, with a length of 0.1 millimeter and a frequency of 3 x 109 Hz. They are found in the non-ionizing portion of the energy spectrum, between radio waves and visible light. "Non-ionizing" means that microwaves do not detach charged particles and produce atoms with an unbalanced plus or minus charge. Microwaves can therefore safely produce heat and not cause food to become radioactive.

Microwaves are reflected from most metals but they produce inductive resonance's in the atoms of many other substances. It was the discovery of their reaction to metals that led to the invention of radar. It was their ability to produce resonant coupling that led to the invention of the microwave oven."

A friend outside my sales territory called me for advice. He needed to replace his dryer. He was at a big-box home improvement chain. I said "Did you use all of those cycles are on the old machine?" He answered "No," to which I replied, "That's right. It needs to meet the minimum basic requirement of a machine that passes hot air into a rotating tube. The fewer bells and whistles, the better off you'll be. Look for a Roper or Hotpoint."

Amana lists a 0.8 cu. ft. microwave, also pictured, on their site at $129.00. I'd be hard-pressed to find very much about it that's different than my $59 Magic chef, which is slightly bigger.
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garyallen | 1 year, 9 months ago Report

Hi and thanks for the 5-star rating--but I think you answered your own question on the follow-up. Remember I said Whirlpool makes most of the laundry, and that you'll never find a Kenmore plant?

Here we go: You say yu're "not really concerned with the most "trusted" or "upscale" brand or anything like that." I read that as "The brand names are irrelevant," or I'd say go to a home-improvement store, see which brand they carry the most of, and buy it.

And you agree: "I'm just looking for the name slapped on the microwaves which seem to be lasting the longest and not breaking down constantly like I see happening all over in the reviews I read."

My point exactly. "Nape slapped on" being the operative term--keep reading and look at the photos below. The names really mean nothing. Sure, every once in a while I got a homeowner remodeling their home, ordering a GE Profile 30-inch gas oven.

The gas coming out of the burners on the top doesn't know if it comes from a top-of-the-line GE Profile or its much-less expensive cousin, the Hotpoint 20" range--or, to be ridiculous to illustrate a point, from a Bunsen burner.

Ditto on 20+cu. ft Stainless Steel fridges. They're gorgeous--I had one--but the part that made it Stainless steel were two letters in the product code. Those two letters tell the factory that the panels--which can be changed if desired later--need to be stainless and not white (or black or white or bisque or some other color like red or blue)

And any way you slice it, with color, capacity (size) and configuration of the doors being the only differences, it's either going to do the same as a Magic Chef by Maytag 15.1 cu. ft fridge will (or a 15.1 from Roper or Hotpoint).

The other consideration is that you have many more electronics manufacturers now--and the microwave is one big piece of electronic equipment. Take a look at that Wal-Mart list: Sanyo, Danby (?-likely a Chinese manufacturer's brand) and Panasonic.

As long as it meets your requirements and you treat it the same as you would any other similar device, you can expect nothing more or less from it, I don't think.

Just to hammer it home, at top is Kenmore, middle is Whirlpool--identical, and bottom is GE--identical except for a knob or two--which qualify as unimportant under the "Do you know what all of those cycles mean?" principle. Last-minute I found a Frigidaire stack. (Door sides can be usually be specified if a particular-sided -opening is desired, so that's not a difference.) They're all white, and they're either 24" or 27"--whichever I found first for each.

Could you pick one out of a lineup from 20 feet away?

PS don't buy one of these--if one thing goes bad (washer or dryer) you have to repair it or replace the whole thing. Get stackable separates..

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/po/091109/995r1/70637hj_27.jpeg

http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/productImages/9/6/00000119396-WhirlpoolTopLoadStackedWasherDryerLTE5243D-small.jpeg

http://images.buzzillions.com/images_products/06/88/7588205_raw.jpg

http://focususa.com/images/products/display/FGX831FSd.jpg
Sources:
http://wichita.ebayclassifieds.com/appliances/wichita/new-kenmore-stacked-24-laundry-center-white/?ad=343255
http://products.howstuffworks.com/whirlpool-top-load-stacked-washer-dryer-lte5243d-review.htm
http://www.buzzillions.com/reviews/ge-stacked-2-7-cu-ft-9-cycle-washer-3-dryer-gas-laundry-center-white-on-reviews
http://focususa.com/frigidairefgx831fsstackedwashergasdryerlaundrycenter.aspx

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michaelpaul | 1 year, 9 months ago Report

Very helpful post, Gary, thanks for writing that. It makes a lot of sense. So, with all that being said, are there not still brands of microwaves to avoid because they seem to be breaking down frequently according to user reviews? And likewise, are there not still brands to consider because of their uptime over the years?

Every brand has a track record, and I'm not really concerned with the most "trusted" or "upscale" brand or anything like that. I'm just looking for the name slapped on the microwaves which seem to be lasting the longest and not breaking down constantly like I see happening all over in the reviews I read.

Based on your review of microwaves in general and Magic Chef in particular, I'm inclined to go the Magic Chef route. But then the logical side of me wants to read the reviews and find out what people think, combined with which ones are the best sellers, and get some kind of weighted average, that way I feel good about the purchase I made instead of just buying one that's cheap and hoping for the best.

Any advice, or do you still believe a microwave is a microwave?

Thanks again for the great answer. Really eye-opening.

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sunshine09 | 1 year, 9 months ago
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We have had our share of microwaves. Currenetly we have a Genereal Electric and we have had it for like 11 years now. It works wonderfully and does not come close to anything we have had in the previous years. However it is an under the counter instead of acctually sitting on the counter. Has a turntable, drefrost , timer and many other features. We reallly love it alot.

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ariashley | 1 year, 9 months ago
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Appliances today are NOT made the way appliances were made back in the day. You aren't likely to find something that will last 28 years. However, I've personally had a lot of luck with Kenmore (from Sears) in countertop microwaves. I owned one before I bought my house that I later sold to a friend and that she still uses. I currently own a Kenmore over the stove microwave.

The Kenmore 6633(9) and 6325(2) midsized models are both highly rated by Consumer Reports and run about $130-140.

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ariashley | 1 year, 9 months ago Report

Oh, my previous microwave, the one I replaced in my current house was an Amana. The only reason I replaced the old Amana microwave was because a housesitter broke the handle off and it wasn't replaceable. However, given the reliability of my refrigerator model, I'm not sure I'd be anxious to go with a current Amana microwave.

Interesting fact, the Kenmore brand doesn't manufacture anything. I'm not sure who actually makes the Kenmore microwaves: http://www.appliance411.com/purchase/sears.shtml might have a clue, but I don't have a model tag to check for sure.

I've had mine for maybe three to four years now (though I purchased a Kenmore Elite and it's an over-the-range model). It runs just like new. I don't know what some people do to their appliances. If a microwave is not cleaned frequently, it can destroy the heating element from the carbonization of the dried food. So, if you buy a microwave, make sure to clean it well at least weekly and it should last for a reasonably long time, even a less expensive model. It's of course MUCH easier to clean immediately after cooking whatever splattered.

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garyallen | 1 year, 9 months ago Report

See me entry below about Kenmore products. You likely have a GE Microwave.

If I had to guess, I'd say the Kenmore 0.7 cu. ft. microwave found here:
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_02069072000P?vName=Appliances&cName=Microwaves&sName=View+All&sbf=Brand&sbv=Kenmore

was a very close cousin to a GE JES0737DNWW (WW=white/white screen)

http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/9349/9349216_sa.jpg

Source: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/GE+-+0.7+Cu.+Ft.+Compact+Microwave+-+White/9349216.p?skuId=9349216&id=1218089462678

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ctchrisadams | 1 year, 9 months ago
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Go to Walmart, Best buy, Target or other big box store, ask them where the microwaves are. Have them put a blindfold over your eyes, spin you around have them point you towards the microwaves. The first one you touch grab it, otherwise just get the cheapest one that's on sale.

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