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glaspell glaspell
 
M$1 December 30, 2008 05:17 AM

Would reading /Ender in Exile/ before reading the Bean books (but after /Ender's Game/) spoil the Bean books?

Either your opinion or something you find on the internet is fine. I've been discussing it with someone else and I'd like more points of view. Also, would it be less fun to read /Ender in Exile/ if you haven't read the Bean trilogy?
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mritty mritty
 
 December 31, 2008 02:37 PM
I'm reading Ender in Exile right now. YES, it most definitely will spoil the Shadow Series for you. Do NOT read Ender in Exile until you've read up through Shadow of the Giant.

You can, if you want, read Ender in Exile before reading any of the three other sequels to Ender's Game (Speaker for the Dead, Xenocide, Children of the Mind), as Ender in Exile happens before any of them.

Ender in Exile starts out immediately after Ender's Game / Ender's Shadow, but all of the Shadow series takes place within the first few chapters of Ender in Exile, and the events that happen at the conclusion of the Shadow series are referred to throught Ender in Exile.
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• Great answer -- you understood and answered my question and, in your comment, my follow up question and help resolve the discussion that prompted this (turns out we were both right -- it's better to read the Shadow series first and it is also okay to read EiE without the Shadow series.) Thanks!


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mritty mritty
 
December 31, 2008 02:52 PM
As to the final part of your question, would it be less fun to read EiE without the Bean Quartet, no I don't think so. What happens in EiE does not require knowledge of the Bean books - everything you need to know is told to you in the pages of EiE. I think Card was very specifically planning on people reading EiE without having read the Shadow series, but also wanted to throw in a bunch of references to that series for those who had read it.

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offthedome offthedome
 
December 30, 2008 05:22 AM
I won't copy and paste the opinion I found. I put the source below. Hope that helps!
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http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080712123420AABGvOB


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glaspell glaspell
 
December 30, 2008 05:24 AM - Fact Refuted
That source offers no opinions related to /Ender in Exile/, it merely states that it is coming soon. It is, in fact, out, and I've read it, so this was not helpful.

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offthedome offthedome
 
December 30, 2008 05:28 AM
I thought you wanted opinions about what order to read them in.

"You can go in two ways by reading the books: in chronological order, or go by Ender's story, then follow Bean's."

"You can read all of the books with Ender first, then go to all of the books with Bean. It won't really matter which of those you do first, as long as you don't read the Xenocide, then Speaker for the Dead...you know, out of order."

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glaspell glaspell
 
December 30, 2008 05:56 AM
Right, but specifically where to put the /Ender in Exile/ book in the order for new readers... That quote doesn't answer that question because it doesn't include the book that hadn't been published yet. When they say "all of the books with Ender" they mean /Ender's Game/, /Speaker for the Dead/, /Xenocide/, and /Children of the Mind/.

I've read them all, and am trying to figure out whether or not (or in what situations) to discourage people who haven't read the Bean series from reading /Ender in Exile./

Thanks for trying to help.

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offthedome offthedome
 
December 30, 2008 06:07 AM
Well it would be nice if you didn't label my link with "Fact Refuted" and say the link just says that it's coming soon. Obviously info is hard to find, otherwise you would have had more answers than mine. You weren't clear on why you wanted it, and I gave you something with two opinions on the order in which to read them. which is the perceived purpose of your question absent any other information.

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glaspell glaspell
 
January 01, 2009 04:23 AM
It's okay, I understand you were doing the best you could, you just don't have enough context with the books to provide a useful answer. There is no way you could have known that "the Ender series" didn't really include /Ender in Exile/ when that opinion was posted, and that EiE is the first book to draw on both those worlds. This was a difficult question to answer well without knowledge of Card's books, since navigating other web pages without that context can be tough.

I hope you don't take the "Fact Refuted" personally; I wanted to clear it up for people who might come to this in the future and have less context than I do, and I also think it's important we use that label for comments when it fits! Go forth and refute! :)

Sorry if I somehow hurt your feelings personally, and again thanks for at least giving it a shot.

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