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Comets and stars are two very different things.
Part 1 - Comets
Comets are quite close to us (for space!) but pretty small in size. They're part of our solar system, and if the only things that were in the solar system were the Earth and comets, one of three things would happen to each comet:
- If it was moving fast enough, it would fly off into deep space. The earth's gravity would slow it down a little as it went but not enough to stop it escaping
- If was moving just at the right speed and in just the right direction, it could be captured by the Earth and go into orbit around it. This is a pretty unlikely scenario though, so it would only happen to a few comets
- If it wasn't fast enough to escape, and not on the right path to go into orbit, it would eventually be pulled right down to Earth, just like you suggest. "Eventually" could be a very long time, because when the comet is far away, the pull of Earth's gravity is very weak. But the solar system is over four billion years old, and there would be time for that to happen eventually, if not already.
However, the Earth and comets aren't the only thing in the solar system. The Sun is by far the most massive thing in the system, with more than 300,000 times the mass of Earth. That means its gravitational pull on any object is also more than 300,000 times bigger than the pull from the Earth.
So basically everything that I said would happen with comets and the Earth happens, but with comets and the Sun. The Earth pulls comets too, but it's gravity is puny, almost nothing, compared to the Sun.
So after 4 billion plus years of the solar system, all the comets have either escaped into deep space, fallen into the Sun or another large body, or gone into orbit around the Sun.
Part 2 - Stars
Now stars are a whole different story. They (like the Sun, which is the nearest star) are huge, and much more massive than the Earth. But they are also incredibly far away.
a) The Sun
Before we get into the distant stars, it's interesting to think about the nearest one - the Sun. Would it be stupid to ask why the Sun doesn't fall down to Earth? Actually no!
Gravity is a two way force. The Earth pulls on the Sun with exactly the same force as the Sun pulls on the Earth. It obviously makes sense to wonder why the Earth doesn't fall into the Sun. But for a physicist it makes even more sense to wonder why when the two things attract each other, they don't "fall on each other", by coming together.
The answer is the same as we saw with the comets, the Earth's speed and direction of travel is such it orbits the sun rather than falling in.
Now if the force is two way like I said, why does the Earth orbit the sun, and not vice versa? The real answer is they both orbit a point in between their two centers of gravity! But the Sun is so massive that that point ends up inside the Sun itself. But two obejcts that are near in size can end up orbitting round a point in the middle, and that actually happens quite often when two stars are close together.
b) Stars in our galaxy
The other stars we see in the night sky are immensely far away compared to comets, the Sun, or other planets of solar system. They are pulled by the Earth's gravity, but that is very very weak at that distance. Just like the Earth's gravity doesn't have much effect on a comet compared to the Sun, it has little effect on the stars compared to other forces acting on them. The stars are in orbit too, but they are in orbit round the center of the galaxy.
c) Everything!
Ok, so if everything atttracts everything else through the pull of gravity, why has it not all come together yet? (Which would really be like ALL the stars falling on the Earth!)
Given enough time, that would happen, but for two rather important things.
- Imagine if on the surface of the Earth every person was pulled towards every other. What would happen? Would we all end up bunched together in a huge ball? Not necessarily. Because while some of the forces pull you East, others pull you West. While some pull North, other pulls South. If people are spread evenly all over the Earth, the net effect would be that you're not pulled in any particular direction. This is basically what happens in the universe on a large scale, gravity pulling one way is cancelled out by gravity pulling the other way.
- Now imagine the same thing, but the Earth is expanding, blowing up like a balloon. Far from all the people being pulled into one huge clump like we were imagining, they'd actually be getting further apart. This is what we think is happening in the universe - the space of the universe itself is expanding! At the moment we really can't tell if it'll go on expanding forever, or not. That's part of what people study with the Hubble telescope and such.
So finally...
It turns out your simple question about why stars and comets don't fall on the Earth turns out not to be so simple at all, in fact quite difficult and very interesting.
It reminds me what's so mind-boggling and fun about science and especially gravity.
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Data on sun's mass vs earth's here:
http://www38.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sun+earth
And here's a comet picked at random:
http://www65.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=C%2F1989%20Q1%20(Okazaki-Levy-Rudenk...
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You can try an experiment with magnets. Notice that the force when they are close together is much stronger than when you move them apart. It's not the same force as gravity, but the inverse square law of distance applies. The closer the magnets are, the stronger the force becomes.
Stars, btw, are much, much bigger than the earth. So saying a smaller star doesn't really make much sense. Comets, otoh, are much more effected by the suns gravity that earth's, since the sun has much more mass that the earth. However, they can be effected, and if one got close enough, it could go into orbit around the earth or crash into it (i.e. fall down).
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Although it is weak, gravity does continue to act over long distances. IF everything in the universe stopped moving with respect to everything else, it would all start collapsing together pretty quickly. All those stars and comets *are* attracted to the Earth. It's just that they're moving so fast in whatever direction they're going that the acceleration due to the Earth's gravity isn't sufficient to redirect their trajectories down to its surface.
Does that make sense?
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Unless the meteor is on a collision course for earth our gravity isn't strong enough to pull an object moving at those speeds off it's course and into us. As for pulling a star to us...well stars are super massive and have a gravity of their own, which is why no planet -not even Jupiter, the largest in our galaxy- has the ability to pull a star into itself.
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Part 1 - Comets
Comets are quite close to us (for space!) but pretty small in size. They're part of our solar system, and if the only things that were in the solar system were the Earth and comets, one of three things would happen to each comet:
- If it was moving fast enough, it would fly off into deep space. The earth's gravity would slow it down a little as it went but not enough to stop it escaping
- If was moving just at the right speed and in just the right direction, it could be captured by the Earth and go into orbit around it. This is a pretty unlikely scenario though, so it would only happen to a few comets
- If it wasn't fast enough to escape, and not on the right path to go into orbit, it would eventually be pulled right down to Earth, just like you suggest. "Eventually" could be a very long time, because when the comet is far away, the pull of Earth's gravity is very weak. But the solar system is over four billion years old, and there would be time for that to happen eventually, if not already.
However, the Earth and comets aren't the only thing in the solar system. The Sun is by far the most massive thing in the system, with more than 300,000 times the mass of Earth. That means its gravitational pull on any object is also more than 300,000 times bigger than the pull from the Earth.
So basically everything that I said would happen with comets and the Earth happens, but with comets and the Sun. The Earth pulls comets too, but it's gravity is puny, almost nothing, compared to the Sun.
So after 4 billion plus years of the solar system, all the comets have either escaped into deep space, fallen into the Sun or another large body, or gone into orbit around the Sun.
Part 2 - Stars
Now stars are a whole different story. They (like the Sun, which is the nearest star) are huge, and much more massive than the Earth. But they are also incredibly far away.
a) The Sun
Before we get into the distant stars, it's interesting to think about the nearest one - the Sun. Would it be stupid to ask why the Sun doesn't fall down to Earth? Actually no!
Gravity is a two way force. The Earth pulls on the Sun with exactly the same force as the Sun pulls on the Earth. It obviously makes sense to wonder why the Earth doesn't fall into the Sun. But for a physicist it makes even more sense to wonder why when the two things attract each other, they don't "fall on each other", by coming together.
The answer is the same as we saw with the comets, the Earth's speed and direction of travel is such it orbits the sun rather than falling in.
Now if the force is two way like I said, why does the Earth orbit the sun, and not vice versa? The real answer is they both orbit a point in between their two centers of gravity! But the Sun is so massive that that point ends up inside the Sun itself. But two obejcts that are near in size can end up orbitting round a point in the middle, and that actually happens quite often when two stars are close together.
b) Stars in our galaxy
The other stars we see in the night sky are immensely far away compared to comets, the Sun, or other planets of solar system. They are pulled by the Earth's gravity, but that is very very weak at that distance. Just like the Earth's gravity doesn't have much effect on a comet compared to the Sun, it has little effect on the stars compared to other forces acting on them. The stars are in orbit too, but they are in orbit round the center of the galaxy.
c) Everything!
Ok, so if everything atttracts everything else through the pull of gravity, why has it not all come together yet? (Which would really be like ALL the stars falling on the Earth!)
Given enough time, that would happen, but for two rather important things.
- Imagine if on the surface of the Earth every person was pulled towards every other. What would happen? Would we all end up bunched together in a huge ball? Not necessarily. Because while some of the forces pull you East, others pull you West. While some pull North, other pulls South. If people are spread evenly all over the Earth, the net effect would be that you're not pulled in any particular direction. This is basically what happens in the universe on a large scale, gravity pulling one way is cancelled out by gravity pulling the other way.
- Now imagine the same thing, but the Earth is expanding, blowing up like a balloon. Far from all the people being pulled into one huge clump like we were imagining, they'd actually be getting further apart. This is what we think is happening in the universe - the space of the universe itself is expanding! At the moment we really can't tell if it'll go on expanding forever, or not. That's part of what people study with the Hubble telescope and such.
So finally...
It turns out your simple question about why stars and comets don't fall on the Earth turns out not to be so simple at all, in fact quite difficult and very interesting.
It reminds me what's so mind-boggling and fun about science and especially gravity.
Source(s):
Data on sun's mass vs earth's here:
http://www38.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=sun+earth
And here's a comet picked at random:
http://www65.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=C%2F1989%20Q1%20(Okazaki-Levy-Rudenk...
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May 20, 2009 04:22 PM
Because the force exerted by gravity lessens proportionally to the square of the distance. Thus things that are far away from earth feel much less force than things close to the ground. This is also how astronauts in the space shuttle can orbit and appear weightless. They are far enough away from earth that the gravity is much, much less. You can try an experiment with magnets. Notice that the force when they are close together is much stronger than when you move them apart. It's not the same force as gravity, but the inverse square law of distance applies. The closer the magnets are, the stronger the force becomes.
Stars, btw, are much, much bigger than the earth. So saying a smaller star doesn't really make much sense. Comets, otoh, are much more effected by the suns gravity that earth's, since the sun has much more mass that the earth. However, they can be effected, and if one got close enough, it could go into orbit around the earth or crash into it (i.e. fall down).
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May 20, 2009 04:23 PM
Astronauts in orbit are weightless because they're in freefall, not because gravity is weak there. Good answer otherwise.
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May 20, 2009 05:16 PM
Well, yes... I guess I was trying to simplify things... maybe I oversimplified it to the point of being wrong.
I was only trying to illustrate the point that they don't fall down. I know that technically it's because their momentum counteracts the force of gravity such that the forces are balanced and they stay in orbit. But I thought that was a bit technical for the asker.
I guess what I was really thinking was, even assuming they weren't 'in orbit' but where up that far, they still would not fall at a very fast rate, because the force is weak. They would eventually fall, at an ever increasing rate, of course but it would take awhile, because gravity is weaker up there.
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I was only trying to illustrate the point that they don't fall down. I know that technically it's because their momentum counteracts the force of gravity such that the forces are balanced and they stay in orbit. But I thought that was a bit technical for the asker.
I guess what I was really thinking was, even assuming they weren't 'in orbit' but where up that far, they still would not fall at a very fast rate, because the force is weak. They would eventually fall, at an ever increasing rate, of course but it would take awhile, because gravity is weaker up there.
May 20, 2009 05:44 PM
The force of gravity in low orbit (where the ISS is, and where the shuttle goes) is not all that much less than on the surface of the Earth. The ISS is orbiting at about 350km. The radius of the Earth is about 6400km. So the orbital radius is only about 1.05 Earth radii.
That means the acceleration of gravity at the ISS is only about 10% less than at the surface.
The astronauts are accelerating toward the center of the Earth at about the same rate as we are. They're just moving laterally so fast that they keep missing the ground. Just like in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: the key to flying is to throw yourself at the ground really hard, and then miss.
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That means the acceleration of gravity at the ISS is only about 10% less than at the surface.
The astronauts are accelerating toward the center of the Earth at about the same rate as we are. They're just moving laterally so fast that they keep missing the ground. Just like in Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: the key to flying is to throw yourself at the ground really hard, and then miss.
May 20, 2009 05:48 PM
Fair enough that when someone asks about a "small star" falling on the Earth, you want to keep your answer ultra simple! :)
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May 21, 2009 02:38 AM
@rickg: Thanks for that.
Now I think of it, they are travelling very fast... I believe they do an orbit in about 90 minutes. I forgot about that. So yeah, at only 1.05 Earth radii I guess the gravity is still pretty strong.
So, a bad example then. I learned something. Thanks :)
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Now I think of it, they are travelling very fast... I believe they do an orbit in about 90 minutes. I forgot about that. So yeah, at only 1.05 Earth radii I guess the gravity is still pretty strong.
So, a bad example then. I learned something. Thanks :)
May 21, 2009 03:16 AM
Glad to help, @cascadehush. This stuff can be very unintuitive, until you spend about 10 years getting the right intuition beaten into you, at which point they give you a PhD. ;-D
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May 20, 2009 06:00 PM
As @cascadehush's answer correctly points out, the force of Earth's gravity falls off as the inverse square of the distance. Although it is weak, gravity does continue to act over long distances. IF everything in the universe stopped moving with respect to everything else, it would all start collapsing together pretty quickly. All those stars and comets *are* attracted to the Earth. It's just that they're moving so fast in whatever direction they're going that the acceleration due to the Earth's gravity isn't sufficient to redirect their trajectories down to its surface.
Does that make sense?
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May 21, 2009 07:15 AM
Earth being the very small planet it is doesn't have enough pull to actually cause a comet or meteor to slam into its surface...often. We have an ozone layer which more or less acts as a shield or if you think of the earth as an organism our ozone would be the cell wall. You have to remember that meteors have a mass and gravity of their own and their speed is barely measured in hundreds of thousands of miles per hour. Earths gravity alone IS enough to effect the trajectory of a meteor but there are much larger forces in our own solar system like Jupiter and our own sun which we ourselves orbit around. Unless the meteor is on a collision course for earth our gravity isn't strong enough to pull an object moving at those speeds off it's course and into us. As for pulling a star to us...well stars are super massive and have a gravity of their own, which is why no planet -not even Jupiter, the largest in our galaxy- has the ability to pull a star into itself.
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