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Ok, I have a couple packaging ideas for you.
1. The Stationary Box, which has an envelope-type opening on one of the long sides. You would use a dot of velcro to fasten it (a cheap and easy material to work with).
Here is a link that gives you a free pattern to construct it, along with instructions on how to format it with your word processor.
http://www.theartfulcrafter.com/box.html
UP-SIDE: It's a very unique form of packaging that is worth saving and reusing. It's practically a gift all by itself. Customers, clients may very well appreciate it.
DOWN-SIDE: For the size you need, you likely couldn't print the pattern on 11x17, and therefore would have to fasten separate pieces together. Also, doesn't form display on its own.
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2. The Flat Shoebox with Window
A flat 8.5x 11 box with removable lid (like with a shoebox) would be a very tasteful way to package your brochures. If you are extra crafty, crating a double layer of cardstock on the lid, and sandwiching some thick cellophane for a window gives you a nice self-displaying box.
Here's a great website with step-by-step instructions for constructing a box like this. Pattern included.
http://www.scor-pal.com/boxes/index_files/Page792.htm
(I LOVE this site!)
UP-SIDE: The instructions on this website make it super easy to create smooth assembly process, and the boxes look beautiful! If you adhere a sample brochure to the inside of the lid, the lid by itself could turn into a display stand.
DOWN-SIDE: Again, you have a size issue trying to use one sheet of paper.
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Generally, I prefer Option #2, and that's what I would try for my own business. I think the assembly on either won't be too taxing. To compensate for printer paper size issues, I would refrain from printing right on the cardstock. Buy the cardstock in a larger size that will construct a box in one sheet. Then print self-adhering labels. Use fancy fancy pre-printed cardstock (as shown on website #2) to add color and design, or add more labels for additional design work.
I think this will work beautifully for you! Good luck!
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Here are some resources I found for boxes and displays:
http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers
Plain. Minimum order 50. 11 1/8 x 8 5/8. holds 100 sheets
http://www.uline.com/BL_5607/Decorative-Mailers
Like above but more decorative looking. More expensive.
http://www.bettymills.com/shop/product/view/Quality%20Park/QUA64014.html
Another option for Document Mailers 9 x 11.5
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/200642584/Cardboard_POP_display.html
A cardboard display possibility.
Good luck with your project!
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This might work for you:
http://www.gopackaging.com/create.aspx
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But I will give it a try. Feel free to PM me with questions.
An idea is to get a pre-made box, add a label. If you need a sturdy box that will serve as an outer mailing box, the companies below have those, too. In white, khaki, and 1 piece or 2 piece. You need to specify to the company that it is an "outside mailer box" suitable for direct shipping.
4 color clear vinyl labels cost most, but look pretty classy. You can also get a variety of color labels from gold, to white, yellow, orange, from the site below. Or check your local Kinkos. (see below)
If this works for you, this will be you:
http://sarahurd.com/content/happyguy.jpg
I've had good luck with these companies:
For premade boxes, these are reliable places I buy at:
http://www.chiswick.com also known as:
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/Product/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=4508&DeptPath%5Fid=450&DeptPath%5Fid=4508
These are called clothing boxes, shirt boxes. They are thinner, and need an outer box to encase them, for shipping. Some come in 2 pieces with lids. Gold, white, black, tan, sometimes colors.
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/images/Product/Medium/S0215348.jpg?
These boxes are the greatest, but don't come larger than 5"x8"xabout 1". They are called "jewelry boxes". They need an outer box to encase them. They are GREAT for cds or smaller items. (this may not apply to you)
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/Product/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=45081&DeptPath%5Fid=450%2C+4508&DeptPath%5Fid=45081
The best I've ever seen, custom designed by you or their artists, one color, 2 color, or full color labels:
http://www.discountlabels.com
These labels are the brand sold and printed at Office Depot and Kinkos. Ask to see the catalog at these stores. They do sell direct, retail, though, to the consumer. If you have a business, they will give you business discount. It will save you money.
Picture's worth a million words
http://www.jigsaw2order.com/images/puzzle-box/blackbox-label.jpg
You can use 2 labels, if you like.
One for illustration and details
One for text!
good luck and have fun!
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If your promotional material was in a tri-fold format, you could package it in a triangular package. Strong for shipping if needed, but better - it can stand up on end for display. The triangle 'box' would be easy to customize. Without a diagram (you are so good at these) perhaps you can picture a Toblerone bar box/package - a unique presentation. However, yours would not be gold and sparkly - unless that is what you wanted of course.
Alternatively you would have the option of a tube container, but this would be less optimal as the paper would more likely be bent depending on sizing.
Are you with me here...? Or am I too far off base...?
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Also, this optional is more of a free solution, not the boxes you want and just in case you are not aware of this:
http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?beginIndex=0&pageSize=10000&langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10152&categoryId=11825
At USPS.com in their store, you will see some of the items say "no charge". So you can get supplies and shipped for free. I'm sure you might even be creative enough to use these to maybe even make a box worthy of your work.
Good Luck!
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Stuff I've shipped
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The height could be smaller but it would ship very well.
The space inside you could fine a clothlike material to rest the papers on (talk about percieved value, cloth isn't that expensive and I don't think I have ever recieved a mailer in a custom box with papers resting on cloth.
This deisgn also allows for a lot of external beautification. with a 9x17 sheep of paper you could wrap a prin tucked under the front lip to the bottom and glue it.
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It's not about the package the brochures come in. Unless you give them something "collectible" or really pretty that can be used for another purpose, they are going to toss the packaging as soon as they open it. Find out what the production coordinator or purchasing coordinator likes; i.e. collectible items, chocolates, art prints or cards, sunglasses, photo frames for their kids pictures, etc. Nothing too expensive - more of a trinket. Food is always good with the ladies and they can share with their friends and show of that they have a great job!
Present the brochures in tissue or some other interesting wrapping with a "earthy" or artsy ribbon that is attached to the collectible box or fancy food package. This could be pastries from Starbucks or Godiva chocolates. It shouldn't be too valuable as to violate any of the ethics rules of the purchasing department, but should give them a reason to want to buy from you again because they know you will provide them a treat or something on their desk to remind them of the extra personal attention you will give them.
I know this because I was a production coordinator in a former career and we didn't give a darn about the packaging. One company delivered in brown Kraft paper and brought us Philadelphia soft pretzels on the side. They got alot of work from us!
Best of luck with your solution.
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like i said, its really a shot in the dark. I've been following this q since it was posted and I'm liking the creativity coming out of here.
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They have a bunch of cool ideas!
What about this link of boxes made from left over cardboard office storage?
http://www.instructables.com/id/Cardboard-Office-Storage-Boxes/
If you want to show them how 'green' you are, you could use a cereal box?
http://www.instructables.com/id/Book_Cover_from_Cereal_Box/
You might find some interesting tips on making new boxes out of old cardboard boxes here...
http://www.instructables.com/id/A_Faster_Easier_Way_to_Make_Boxes/
Again, I've just been bouncing around on instructables.com and you might find more than what I found.
Good Luck Rob!
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http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/video/how-to-make-a-cute-gift-box-249356/
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Here are a few links that I thought might at least inspire other ideas:
Here is a display stand made of Origami:
Origami Display Stand
Another idea is packaging that turns in to desktop organizer.
The closest thing I could find was this TV stand:
Arpro packaging turns in to a TV stand
The example is definitely not a DIY, but perhaps something similar could be made by hand with thick paper.
I was thinking half could be your display stand and half could be either an organizer (shelf) or possibly a desktop calendar.
For the desktop calendar I was thinking a DIY origami job, with an end result something like this:
Wooden Desktop Calendar
Only made of paper.
Here is a template for making the cubes:
Origami Cube
Perhaps the cubes could be pre-printed, but require assembly by the client.
A way to make it interesting (but hopefully not too difficult) for the client.
Here is instructions for making boxes from origami:
Origami Gift Boxes in Fabric or Paper
And another idea is some sort of desktop photo frame made from (part of?) the packaging materials.
Origami Photo Frame
Origami Photo Frame 2
Fancy Origami Photo Frame
Nothing perfect here, but hopefully it will spark some other ideas!
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you could customize it however you saw fit so it could be "fancier" if you like.
Since it is able to stand alone you could also use it as a display box by folding the front flap into the the back behind the pamphlets, or make the front flap longer and you could flip it behind the box folding it in the opposite direction of the original creases making a sturdy "leg" for the box to lean on when tipped on it's back.
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http://sassyinkdesigns.blogspot.com/2009/06/flip-top-box-tutorial.html
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I've measured that a stack of standard 11"x8.5" paper is 1/8" thick. I've decided that the height of the compartment that the paper would be put in is 5/32" thick, which is slightly over 1/8" thick. This way, the paper will still be held firmly inside the compartment, but will still be loose enough for you to take out and put in the paper. Each face of the package is 11.5" in length by 8.75" in width. Here's a diagram:
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/570/boxdesign.png
To assemble, follow these instructions:
1. Each side tab folds twice. Fold each one up from the fold connecting directly to the Face 2. Then, fold along the second fold 5/32" upwards. All of these folds should be inwards.
2. You'll notice a triangle at the bottom of each side tab. Fold this along the solid black line (you'll notice this in the "detail" box), so that the small triangle is now facing inwards.
3. Do this with the other side tab.
4. Optional: On each side tab, you can glue or tape the larger part of the tab and the small triangle together.
5. Put glue on top of the now folded side tab. Fold Face 1 over this, so that you now have a compartment.
6. To close it, fill your box with paper, and then fold the closing tab over the paper and inside the box. You can secure this by taping it down.
7. To display it, you'll find two display tabs on either side of the bottom of Face 1. They are folded along the black lines, and at the bottom of each square portion of the display tab is a notch. On the closing tab at the top, there are notches on either side of the display tab. Make sure your box is already folded before displaying. With Face 1 facing you on the folded box, fold up the two display tabs, along with the closing tab, so the squares fall below the closing tab. To lock the closing tab into place, put the notches together. To support it, cut out a piece of cardboard or something like that. I'll post a picture of these directions in a reply.
That's my design... I can imagine that some of these directions may be somewhat vague, so please don't hesitate to ask me if you need any clarification on anything mentioned above.
I hope that I was of assistance, and good luck on your box quest!
Highest Regards,
-Beau Brown
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I only had copy paper on hand and this is basically a home made envelope that you can choose the card stock and print your logo design on
Start with 11x17 card stock
Print your logo graphic design centered 1 1/4 of an inch from each long side and 3 1/4" from the "top" and 3" above the bottom and place logo/design facing down.
Fold in 1 1/8th inch on each long side
Fold in 2 7/8 inches on from the "bottom" short side
Insert brochures inside folds
fold down the "Top" 3 inches down to create a seam the then create 45 degree folds on the corners with to bottom of the folds being at 2 7/8" from the top
Place glue on fold flaps facing you with the exception of the "top" 45 degree folds.
Place an 11 x 8.5 piece of card stock on the flaps with the glue.
Fold down the top and seal as you please. (I suggest glue and a really cool "RB" wax seal.
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please don't take this the wrong way, but i don't think you are going to get the quality you want from friends and family with scissors and glue guns, even though you can probably get a quality design for the box.
that being said... i did some searching and found some companies that do custom boxes in smaller quantities.
http://www.custommadecorrugatedboxes.com/
their site says this:
Custom corrugated cardboard boxes
MADE TO ORDER
Custom corrugated cardboard boxes in small quantities, custom made to your exact specifications, without set-up fees or die charges.
* Any Time ... Standard 1 week delivery, same day available
* Any Size ... Boxes for baseballs as well as refrigerators
* Any Style ... See our many styles on our box sizing page
* Any Quantity ... One box to any quantity (we specialize in quantities of 1000 or Fewer)
* Avoid Expenses ... NO die charges or set-up fees
We can supply you with almost ANY corrugated shipping container in ANY QUANTITY and in your hands within a few days!
http://www.cactuscontainers.com/
their site says this:
Save Money - Save Space - Buy Smaller Quantities.
Buy Only What You Need - Buy from Cactus!
Cactus Containers Specializes in Custom-Made boxes & packaging. Whatever the size, whatever the style, we can deliver!
For over 30 years, Cactus Containers has helped customers just like you create stunning looking boxes and packaging solutions. No matter what style or size you need, with Cactus Containers you’ll get the packaging you want, on time and on budget - GUARANTEED!!
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looking at the second site brought me to this box:
http://www.cactuscontainers.com/POPUP_generic.asp?photo=mailer-07.jpg&title=Large%20Image
it think if you took a box like this and asked them to modify it so that if it was standing up vertically as you specified in your question, and then have the box open via a seam across the middle front of the box it would be the proper size and orientation you are looking for. (you might need it to be narrower for the quantity you want)
2 options for making it a standing display:
design option 1:
when it opened, only the top half of the front panel and the top edge of the box would come off, and it should be able to be detached across the top to leave the upper half of the front open with no top on the box. if this detachable (probably by perforations) portion could then be attached to the back of the package to act as a prop or stand, i think you would have what you want.
design option 2:
or if the front could open by that seam, then the top half could be lifted and pulled over and behind the box low enough to reach the table top and expose the brochures at the top, i think that would also work.
either way, i think a box like that is your solution.
buying from a company that has no set up fees or die charges, or just even one that does small quantities should give you the quality you are looking for at a price that doesn't break the budget.
even if you still want to contract your friends and family... i think that doing the box with a horizontal split across the short side of the front of the box and making that open upwards is going to give you the display options.
sure sparked our imaginations... thanks for a great question!
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http://www.custommadecorrugatedboxes.com/
http://www.cactuscontainers.com/
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But I get the feeling that you want to make your boxes special. Well, here's another idea. How about decorating it with some Flickr photos? It will make the box look more distinguished.
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First of all, choose one of the boxes from the link below. White ones are best.
This one has no easy adhesive strip- http://www.uline.com/BL_1302/Easy-Fold-White-Mailers
This one does-http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers
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Once you select a box use this site to make a mosaic using Flickr photos. I would suggest a mosaic, for your boxes as it seems more appropriate but http://bighugelabs.com/ gives you many different things you can do with photos, you can add calendars or even make them into magazine covers. I made a mosaic from Flickr photo sets, take a look.
http://tu.nu/wBbJ
You can use this site to place your photos strategically-
http://www.boxcoop.com/designtips.htm
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You can save the mosaic to your computer and open it with windows photo gallery, then print them out. They will be smaller then the original mosaic. Or you can buy the mosaic from the site. If you want to print them yourself use white card stock paper.
I also found this box, you might be able to make it.
http://tu.nu/c7nE
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Here is another one kind of like the one above http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers.
Hope this helps some and good luck to all that is doing a search for Rob !
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http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers
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The box would be 8.5x11x0.5in just big enough to fit everything. It's made from two full 11x17 sheets of cardstock. One sheet is folded to make the box bottom and the other the top. The box can be turned into a stand by taping the top and bottom on one edge and stand it up house of cards style. The other stand idea (pictured below) involves gluing half of the top and bottom together then trimming the top so it can swing open.
I know mine looks flimsy because I didn't have any 11x17 sheets so I had to tape some laser printer paper together and experimented a while. Although, with the cardstock it would be much stonger and cleaner looking. Using hot glue instead of tape would hold all the folds nice and flat and make the box much more sturdy.
Instead of cardstock you may even be able to use really thin coroplast (corrugated plastic). You could fold it at right angles by cutting 45degree V-notches with an exacto knife. Then fill the notches with hot glue so the fold stays. It would make really nice looking corners too.
Steps (according to drawing below):
1) Cut until 2.75in marks
2) Fold on 2.75in marks into middle and open the fold
3) Fold on 2.25in marks into middle and open the fold
4) Fold on 1.75in marks behind (the other way)
5) Fold inward on 1.0in marks
6) Fold inward on 0.5in marks
7) Fold parallel down edge to make tabs to fold under edges 2 & 3
8) See flickr pictures of folds
9) To make the top repeat everything except make folds 2 & 5 a little further out. This way the top will fit around the box bottom. You'll also have to shrink the size of 6 & 3 & 4 as well.
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July 23, 2009 01:10 PM
Can you help me design a package?
I regularly design, print and deliver high quality paper brochures.
I currently deliver these brochures to customers in a paper bag. This is inadequate. I'd like to design a custom box but I've found out that custom boxes are expensive and I don't need 1000's of them. Rather than contract a large volume packaging company, I'm looking to contract the labor of friends and family to cut, fold and glue boxes. But, I'm stuck on the design! Can you help?
The box must:
Since I only need the box to hold 20 brochures, I think that using heavy cardstock should be adequate. *I'm open to suggestions on the material* Cardstock would also allow me to brand the boxes with printing easily. My printer cannot print over 11x17 so ideally, the box will not use a "face" that is larger than that. I have hot glue guns, paper cutters, bone folders and access to *any* materials that are required.
The finished box should above all else be attractive. It would also be great if the box somehow turned into a standing display case by folding out (or down) a support and exposing the front of the brochures. Labor is a concern, so optimizing the folds and cuts is important - these will be hand made.
Can you figure out how to fold, cut and assemble a box to hold (and maybe display) my brochures?
If someone can figure this out, I'll award the best answer. If you try to help me and you're close to a solution but your solution isn't quite right, I'll tip you. Any helpful advice, pointers, etc will also likely receive a tip. It might be hard to relay exactly how to make the box to me - a video or very clear measurements & instructions would help out a lot.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
I currently deliver these brochures to customers in a paper bag. This is inadequate. I'd like to design a custom box but I've found out that custom boxes are expensive and I don't need 1000's of them. Rather than contract a large volume packaging company, I'm looking to contract the labor of friends and family to cut, fold and glue boxes. But, I'm stuck on the design! Can you help?
The box must:
- Hold 20 pieces of paper that are 11" tall and 8.5" wide.
- Be strong enough to ship if required
- Be easy to hand assemble
Since I only need the box to hold 20 brochures, I think that using heavy cardstock should be adequate. *I'm open to suggestions on the material* Cardstock would also allow me to brand the boxes with printing easily. My printer cannot print over 11x17 so ideally, the box will not use a "face" that is larger than that. I have hot glue guns, paper cutters, bone folders and access to *any* materials that are required.
The finished box should above all else be attractive. It would also be great if the box somehow turned into a standing display case by folding out (or down) a support and exposing the front of the brochures. Labor is a concern, so optimizing the folds and cuts is important - these will be hand made.
Can you figure out how to fold, cut and assemble a box to hold (and maybe display) my brochures?
If someone can figure this out, I'll award the best answer. If you try to help me and you're close to a solution but your solution isn't quite right, I'll tip you. Any helpful advice, pointers, etc will also likely receive a tip. It might be hard to relay exactly how to make the box to me - a video or very clear measurements & instructions would help out a lot.
Any help is greatly appreciated!
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| July 22, 2009 04:14 PM |
1. The Stationary Box, which has an envelope-type opening on one of the long sides. You would use a dot of velcro to fasten it (a cheap and easy material to work with).
Here is a link that gives you a free pattern to construct it, along with instructions on how to format it with your word processor.
http://www.theartfulcrafter.com/box.html
UP-SIDE: It's a very unique form of packaging that is worth saving and reusing. It's practically a gift all by itself. Customers, clients may very well appreciate it.
DOWN-SIDE: For the size you need, you likely couldn't print the pattern on 11x17, and therefore would have to fasten separate pieces together. Also, doesn't form display on its own.
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2. The Flat Shoebox with Window
A flat 8.5x 11 box with removable lid (like with a shoebox) would be a very tasteful way to package your brochures. If you are extra crafty, crating a double layer of cardstock on the lid, and sandwiching some thick cellophane for a window gives you a nice self-displaying box.
Here's a great website with step-by-step instructions for constructing a box like this. Pattern included.
http://www.scor-pal.com/boxes/index_files/Page792.htm
(I LOVE this site!)
UP-SIDE: The instructions on this website make it super easy to create smooth assembly process, and the boxes look beautiful! If you adhere a sample brochure to the inside of the lid, the lid by itself could turn into a display stand.
DOWN-SIDE: Again, you have a size issue trying to use one sheet of paper.
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Generally, I prefer Option #2, and that's what I would try for my own business. I think the assembly on either won't be too taxing. To compensate for printer paper size issues, I would refrain from printing right on the cardstock. Buy the cardstock in a larger size that will construct a box in one sheet. Then print self-adhering labels. Use fancy fancy pre-printed cardstock (as shown on website #2) to add color and design, or add more labels for additional design work.
I think this will work beautifully for you! Good luck!
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July 22, 2009 02:07 PM
Thanks, Ssmacd!
I've thought about that and even experimented it a bit. While envelopes are cheap and can be easily printed on, I'm really looking for a packaging solution that will highlight the high-quality brochures inside. I'm hoping to differentiate the product by packaging it in a unique, attractive and hopefully useful container.
Cheap is good - especially since packaging will cost me money - but quality trumps cheap. None of the products or services that I offer compete on price, they compete on quality and results.
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I've thought about that and even experimented it a bit. While envelopes are cheap and can be easily printed on, I'm really looking for a packaging solution that will highlight the high-quality brochures inside. I'm hoping to differentiate the product by packaging it in a unique, attractive and hopefully useful container.
Cheap is good - especially since packaging will cost me money - but quality trumps cheap. None of the products or services that I offer compete on price, they compete on quality and results.
July 22, 2009 02:29 PM
If you do decide to go with envelops, your local copy shop could print your logo on some durable high quality poly envelopes...and you could use a cardboard insert that doubles as display stand as the cardboard to keep it rigid. Here's one that folds flat: http://www.siegeldisplay.com/productdetail.aspx?id=802dc-55401
Just a thought, if you can't get the box concept figured out.
Good luck!
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Just a thought, if you can't get the box concept figured out.
Good luck!
July 22, 2009 02:46 PM
Envelopes solve every problem except for the most important requirement. I need something that looks great and showcases my product better than anyone else.
I figure that if a customer sees a nice box that is not only functional as a shipping container but also attractive and useful that the perceived value of my product will increase.
I'm not against using envelopes and with a nice looking graphic design they could be attractive. But even the best looking envelope is just an envelope.
Your suggestions and help are greatly appreciated. Tip for you!!! Thank-you.
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I figure that if a customer sees a nice box that is not only functional as a shipping container but also attractive and useful that the perceived value of my product will increase.
I'm not against using envelopes and with a nice looking graphic design they could be attractive. But even the best looking envelope is just an envelope.
Your suggestions and help are greatly appreciated. Tip for you!!! Thank-you.
July 22, 2009 03:10 PM
Thanks for the tip-- but I don't think I've helped yet. What type of brochure do you distribute-- you've really got my brain working overtime here on the perceived usefulness issue.
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July 22, 2009 04:27 PM
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hey Rob, there are boxes, and metal cans with clear lids. These cans (even plain metal) are super!
http://www.independentcan.com/
lots of sizes, but don't know if they are big enough for your use. If you are offering approximately $37.50 US dollars for a solution, maybe a one hour consultation with a graphic designer in person would be your best option! Local colleges offer such services, too, low cost. Lots of good ideas amongst those young students!
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http://www.independentcan.com/
lots of sizes, but don't know if they are big enough for your use. If you are offering approximately $37.50 US dollars for a solution, maybe a one hour consultation with a graphic designer in person would be your best option! Local colleges offer such services, too, low cost. Lots of good ideas amongst those young students!
July 23, 2009 12:41 AM
"What type of brochure do you distribute"
The content varies.
However, quality is paramount. I don't do anything "half-assed" (for lack of a better term). I print with the best ink, on the best printers, on the best stock. I don't mess around and I charge for my attention to detail, service, and quality.
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The content varies.
However, quality is paramount. I don't do anything "half-assed" (for lack of a better term). I print with the best ink, on the best printers, on the best stock. I don't mess around and I charge for my attention to detail, service, and quality.
July 22, 2009 02:14 PM
It looks like you need some paper/document mailers. I think it would be best to order some boxes rather than trying to construct them yourself. You can always print designs on the boxes, I'm thinking maybe with a large stamp. You could get one made for your logo and use it to customize the boxes. It might be kinda hard to turn the box into a display unless the customer just wants to use the cover and prop it up. Here are some resources I found for boxes and displays:
http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers
Plain. Minimum order 50. 11 1/8 x 8 5/8. holds 100 sheets
http://www.uline.com/BL_5607/Decorative-Mailers
Like above but more decorative looking. More expensive.
http://www.bettymills.com/shop/product/view/Quality%20Park/QUA64014.html
Another option for Document Mailers 9 x 11.5
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/200642584/Cardboard_POP_display.html
A cardboard display possibility.
Good luck with your project!
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July 22, 2009 02:29 PM
Thanks, Soundboy!
These are close... but not really what I'm looking for. I've found a ton of different places online that sell boxes, but haven't found one that meets my requirements.
The problems that I've had with online box suppliers are:
The boxes / container should fit 20 11x8.5 brochures
Most stock boxes are too large and make the low quantity look lonely
None of the boxes turn into displays.
There are a lot of POS / popup displays, but there isn't an off-the-shelf option where the box is both the container and the display.
Stock boxes are designed for the lowest common denominator.
I charge a lot for these high quality brochures and I want the packaging to reflect the quality and creativity that's inside.
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These are close... but not really what I'm looking for. I've found a ton of different places online that sell boxes, but haven't found one that meets my requirements.
The problems that I've had with online box suppliers are:
The boxes / container should fit 20 11x8.5 brochures
Most stock boxes are too large and make the low quantity look lonely
None of the boxes turn into displays.
There are a lot of POS / popup displays, but there isn't an off-the-shelf option where the box is both the container and the display.
Stock boxes are designed for the lowest common denominator.
I charge a lot for these high quality brochures and I want the packaging to reflect the quality and creativity that's inside.
July 22, 2009 03:04 PM
Well since you want your box to look good, instead of taking a chance and putting something together yourself, try this. This might work for you:
http://www.gopackaging.com/create.aspx
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July 22, 2009 03:35 PM
This would be the "pro" way to do this. If I had the cash to spend up front, I'd be working with a custom / contracted box company.
These geopacking guys (I've contacted them in the past) and other custom box manufacturers require that you purchase a die. Also, you must use their printing services because after the box is stamped, it won't feed through a printer. Their minimum quantities are also prohibitive. I don't need thousands of these boxes.
So, with cost and quality being important, I'm looking for a "home made" solution. I think that with the right technique, I could build great looking boxes - even if this only a short term solution until I can afford the upfront costs of a pro.
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These geopacking guys (I've contacted them in the past) and other custom box manufacturers require that you purchase a die. Also, you must use their printing services because after the box is stamped, it won't feed through a printer. Their minimum quantities are also prohibitive. I don't need thousands of these boxes.
So, with cost and quality being important, I'm looking for a "home made" solution. I think that with the right technique, I could build great looking boxes - even if this only a short term solution until I can afford the upfront costs of a pro.
July 22, 2009 04:21 PM
Well then heres an idea if you want to do the whole thing homemade.
If you have a left over box thats big enough, or have card board that you are planing to make the box with, then try this.
make sure that the Lst side, bottom, and roght sode of the box are connected, almost like one piece. That can be your display after you open the Box. Then with the other sides that are left open, make another 3 piece box thing like I said before, and they should both fit with each other. Then you can use tape on the edges with a little tab pulled over so it will be easy to open, and now that you have opened it, you have 2 tri-folds that you could use as a display. So just put the stuff that you want on the display board, then put the box together.
There is probably a couple of modifications you might need to do to make it look the way you want it to. Besides that, it could work.
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If you have a left over box thats big enough, or have card board that you are planing to make the box with, then try this.
make sure that the Lst side, bottom, and roght sode of the box are connected, almost like one piece. That can be your display after you open the Box. Then with the other sides that are left open, make another 3 piece box thing like I said before, and they should both fit with each other. Then you can use tape on the edges with a little tab pulled over so it will be easy to open, and now that you have opened it, you have 2 tri-folds that you could use as a display. So just put the stuff that you want on the display board, then put the box together.
There is probably a couple of modifications you might need to do to make it look the way you want it to. Besides that, it could work.
July 23, 2009 12:49 AM
Well, i know you dont really want to buy something, but this is one of the cheapest things I could find that might be of some use for you. I dont know if you want to go this way but, its kind of a good idea.
http://www.buyonlinenow.com/viewitemsAct.asp?classlabel=BDAA&manufactlabel=1700100&SKU=ESS59802&gb=1
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July 23, 2009 01:07 AM
Now you have me trying to figure this whole box thing out too, so now i really want to know. =:)
Well these arent privey, they are pretty cheap, maybe these will work.
http://www.plasticfab.com/flyerbox.htm
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Well these arent privey, they are pretty cheap, maybe these will work.
http://www.plasticfab.com/flyerbox.htm
July 23, 2009 01:09 AM
privey is supposed to be pricey. Man I need to check my spelling before I submit. =:)
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July 23, 2009 01:13 AM
Maybe you could use something like a pizza box and spray paint it all the color that you want, idk, Im still trying to figure this out. I started to think of a box idea that involved magnets where the box closed to keep it shut, but I only got a little more than half way before it started to not end up working.
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July 22, 2009 03:19 PM
o, um, ok thnx. I just thought it was a pretty good web-site. =:) But thanks for your support.
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July 22, 2009 05:14 PM
In the future, to follow proper Mahalo etiquette, please respond to someone's answer with a comment when you want to say something like this. By posting as a seperate answer, even though you don't really have an answer to give to the question, the system can think you are trying to game points and that can result in your account being removed.
Comments/support to other peoples answers is extremely important and needs to happen so thank you for doing that!
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Comments/support to other peoples answers is extremely important and needs to happen so thank you for doing that!
July 22, 2009 07:27 PM
great comment spoon. it is HARD to see where the "comment button" goes, though (at least for me) so I try to put someone's ID name into my comment as to who it is for. I wracked my brains for 15 minutes on this one. It's a case of "hard to figure out what he wants and needs without seeing it in person" for me. I hope he finds a solution. I had a similar problem with our company product, and finally found a solution. Everyone's case is different. That's what makes a good graphic designer... to work FOR the client! Cheers!!
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July 22, 2009 03:15 PM
hi, as a graphic designer, I hesitate to give advice via the internet or phone. But I will give it a try. Feel free to PM me with questions.
An idea is to get a pre-made box, add a label. If you need a sturdy box that will serve as an outer mailing box, the companies below have those, too. In white, khaki, and 1 piece or 2 piece. You need to specify to the company that it is an "outside mailer box" suitable for direct shipping.
4 color clear vinyl labels cost most, but look pretty classy. You can also get a variety of color labels from gold, to white, yellow, orange, from the site below. Or check your local Kinkos. (see below)
If this works for you, this will be you:
I've had good luck with these companies:
For premade boxes, these are reliable places I buy at:
http://www.chiswick.com also known as:
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/Product/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=4508&DeptPath%5Fid=450&DeptPath%5Fid=4508
These are called clothing boxes, shirt boxes. They are thinner, and need an outer box to encase them, for shipping. Some come in 2 pieces with lids. Gold, white, black, tan, sometimes colors.
These boxes are the greatest, but don't come larger than 5"x8"xabout 1". They are called "jewelry boxes". They need an outer box to encase them. They are GREAT for cds or smaller items. (this may not apply to you)
http://www.staplesindustrial.com/Product/dept.asp?dept%5Fid=45081&DeptPath%5Fid=450%2C+4508&DeptPath%5Fid=45081
The best I've ever seen, custom designed by you or their artists, one color, 2 color, or full color labels:
http://www.discountlabels.com
These labels are the brand sold and printed at Office Depot and Kinkos. Ask to see the catalog at these stores. They do sell direct, retail, though, to the consumer. If you have a business, they will give you business discount. It will save you money.
Picture's worth a million words
You can use 2 labels, if you like.
One for illustration and details
One for text!
good luck and have fun!
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July 22, 2009 03:57 PM
Thanks for the links, Krysstel! I'm looking for something a little bit more custom than stickers and pre-made boxes.
I'm really hoping for a solution that takes my requirements into account and can increase the perceived value of my product. If mailing was my primary concern, you'd have the best answer! But, I'm really looking for a method over an easy-to-find product.
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I'm really hoping for a solution that takes my requirements into account and can increase the perceived value of my product. If mailing was my primary concern, you'd have the best answer! But, I'm really looking for a method over an easy-to-find product.
July 22, 2009 04:01 PM
hi, good luck on that! (been there, done that) The clear stickers are nearly invisible on certain types of boxes, especially if you fill them with color. You could go to Kinkos or Office Depot and look at what these stickers look like. Seeing it in person is really needed. :) I've looked into custom software boxes, too. They wanted $10 per box (5"x8") and 1000 minimum... well, that was 14 years ago. Plus, you have to design the artwork, or have someone else do it. It is a complex project. good luck with it! keep looking and you will find a solution that YOU like best!!
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July 22, 2009 04:04 PM
just saw you offered $50M tip. I thought it was $5. Shows you what I care about $$!. Well, hopefully that will inspire someone to give you some good ideas. Lots of ideas being tossed around here. and best of luck to you! cheers!!
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July 23, 2009 01:20 AM
Even though this may not be as custom as you want, I think this is the best solution. Standardize on a off-the shelf box and get good quality stickers printed up that are the same dimensions as the box top (or main part of the box). Use cheap labor to put the stickers on the box. Go ahead and test it out. Get a box and go to kinko's and explain that you want samples. They'll print them up. If it doesn't work you're only out the cost of one box.
Smart idea with the packaging robbrown. One of those marketing guru
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July 22, 2009 06:38 PM
OK Rob. Is your brochure tri-fold. Could it become tri-fold? If so, you would be able to consider an 'out of the box' option for this question. Instead of delivering your brochure sheet in a flat page format... If your promotional material was in a tri-fold format, you could package it in a triangular package. Strong for shipping if needed, but better - it can stand up on end for display. The triangle 'box' would be easy to customize. Without a diagram (you are so good at these) perhaps you can picture a Toblerone bar box/package - a unique presentation. However, yours would not be gold and sparkly - unless that is what you wanted of course.
Alternatively you would have the option of a tube container, but this would be less optimal as the paper would more likely be bent depending on sizing.
Are you with me here...? Or am I too far off base...?
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July 22, 2009 07:28 PM
I LOVE your creative thinking. I thought about a candy box too, but don't know if it'd be appropriate for this application. the folding the brochures into 2 or 3 fold is good. don't know if he'd want to fold them. TONS of great ideas here from a lot of people. I think they all should have a tip or two for their time! good luck Rob in finding something that works, surely something here, or a combination thereof, will!!
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July 23, 2009 02:05 PM
Hi @robbrown.
Here's a third and I think best proposal for you.
I have designed a simple half cylinder package that could be folded from one sheet of your preferred box material/card stock or something heavier. I have created a mock up in google sketch up - however, I am sending this file/image to you separately as the image data may have some of my personal info on it and I'd rather not broadcast that - I'm kind if shy.
Description and Simple Instructions:
Take one long Sheet of your material (width approx. 35" - this will be folded to make up the front and back arc), length approx 13".
The Box Front lies flat, make one fold at approx. 10"
Two Shallow Half Circles attach at each end - Interior Tape.
The Box Back is a simple fold, wrap the card stock in the arc shape - Interior Tape to secure. Cutting Tabs in the materials will improve seam strength.
Advantages of this Design:
This simple half circle or cylinder shape is strong
Easily will hold your 20 flat brochures
A Distinctive way to make yourself stand out from your competitors
Box stands upright as a display at locations or can rest on its flat side and still be a display depending on your choice of package design.
Cheers
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Here's a third and I think best proposal for you.
I have designed a simple half cylinder package that could be folded from one sheet of your preferred box material/card stock or something heavier. I have created a mock up in google sketch up - however, I am sending this file/image to you separately as the image data may have some of my personal info on it and I'd rather not broadcast that - I'm kind if shy.
Description and Simple Instructions:
Take one long Sheet of your material (width approx. 35" - this will be folded to make up the front and back arc), length approx 13".
The Box Front lies flat, make one fold at approx. 10"
Two Shallow Half Circles attach at each end - Interior Tape.
The Box Back is a simple fold, wrap the card stock in the arc shape - Interior Tape to secure. Cutting Tabs in the materials will improve seam strength.
Advantages of this Design:
This simple half circle or cylinder shape is strong
Easily will hold your 20 flat brochures
A Distinctive way to make yourself stand out from your competitors
Box stands upright as a display at locations or can rest on its flat side and still be a display depending on your choice of package design.
Cheers
July 23, 2009 02:18 PM
This is an example of a half cylinder - see how well it stands up! With some simple packing material to secure your brochure sheets, it will work perfectly.
The front surface becomes your display - or the arc (back) surface can be an even more unique visual - you have options.
http://www.engineering.com/content/community/library/textbooks/halfcylinder/images/half_cylinder.jpg
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The front surface becomes your display - or the arc (back) surface can be an even more unique visual - you have options.
July 22, 2009 07:35 PM
I don't know what type of stock the brochures are so this option may not help. Also, this optional is more of a free solution, not the boxes you want and just in case you are not aware of this:
http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCategoryDisplay?beginIndex=0&pageSize=10000&langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10152&categoryId=11825
At USPS.com in their store, you will see some of the items say "no charge". So you can get supplies and shipped for free. I'm sure you might even be creative enough to use these to maybe even make a box worthy of your work.
Good Luck!
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Stuff I've shipped
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July 22, 2009 11:28 PM
I am imagining a box similar to a motherboard box. The height could be smaller but it would ship very well.
The space inside you could fine a clothlike material to rest the papers on (talk about percieved value, cloth isn't that expensive and I don't think I have ever recieved a mailer in a custom box with papers resting on cloth.
This deisgn also allows for a lot of external beautification. with a 9x17 sheep of paper you could wrap a prin tucked under the front lip to the bottom and glue it.
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July 22, 2009 11:47 PM
Rob, It's not about the package the brochures come in. Unless you give them something "collectible" or really pretty that can be used for another purpose, they are going to toss the packaging as soon as they open it. Find out what the production coordinator or purchasing coordinator likes; i.e. collectible items, chocolates, art prints or cards, sunglasses, photo frames for their kids pictures, etc. Nothing too expensive - more of a trinket. Food is always good with the ladies and they can share with their friends and show of that they have a great job!
Present the brochures in tissue or some other interesting wrapping with a "earthy" or artsy ribbon that is attached to the collectible box or fancy food package. This could be pastries from Starbucks or Godiva chocolates. It shouldn't be too valuable as to violate any of the ethics rules of the purchasing department, but should give them a reason to want to buy from you again because they know you will provide them a treat or something on their desk to remind them of the extra personal attention you will give them.
I know this because I was a production coordinator in a former career and we didn't give a darn about the packaging. One company delivered in brown Kraft paper and brought us Philadelphia soft pretzels on the side. They got alot of work from us!
Best of luck with your solution.
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July 23, 2009 12:00 AM
Basically, I'm thinking you can use cardstock(great idea by the way) with the measurements: (roughly)13.5 x 19.5. Think of a shirt box. You would fold across the width so you have two 'sides'-each 9.5 from the center out. Make fold lines down the middle to divide each 9.5 side. Now make a 1" fold line at the far right from top to bottom, and do the same on the far left, top to bottom. Now you have two flat areas that are 8.5 by 13.5. Now make a 1" fold line across the top from left to right. Do the same at the bottom. Now your box size for the brochures is 8.5 x 11.5. You will place the brochures inside the box, fold over one side, fold up the one inch little sides and tape together. When unpacking, fold back out like a book and make into a stand to display the brochures. Good luck! I can send a drawing if you need it. Shelly3
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July 23, 2009 12:06 AM
This sounds really intersting!
But I am having trouble seeing it in my head. A picture, camera snap, or something sure would help. It doesn't have to be to scale... this is just a mockup and I can expand the measurements for the proof.
Thanks for your answer!
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But I am having trouble seeing it in my head. A picture, camera snap, or something sure would help. It doesn't have to be to scale... this is just a mockup and I can expand the measurements for the proof.
Thanks for your answer!
July 23, 2009 12:26 AM
I'm not the most creative person in this aspect, so this is a shot in the dark, but why don't you try contacting someone who does this for a living, like Staples, Office Depot(?) or a UPS Store, only for suggestions on how to create a box like this. I know you want to make it yourself due to resources and whatnot but they may be able to point you in a good direction besides the suggestions we're giving here, and perhaps post up another note to this question, with what you learned to give us some better ideas ans suggestions. like i said, its really a shot in the dark. I've been following this q since it was posted and I'm liking the creativity coming out of here.
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July 23, 2009 12:33 AM
Been to Staples, Office Depot, etc... consulted a few "pros" and skimmed all the free advice I was going to get.
The bottom line is that a professional could complete this quickly and easily. However, there is too much of an upfront cost for me to have this done. This product isn't primary to the work I do so while I want it to look great, I don't want to spend a ton of cash.
If you have any ideas and can help me design a box, please don't hesitate to answer! Thanks!
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The bottom line is that a professional could complete this quickly and easily. However, there is too much of an upfront cost for me to have this done. This product isn't primary to the work I do so while I want it to look great, I don't want to spend a ton of cash.
If you have any ideas and can help me design a box, please don't hesitate to answer! Thanks!
July 23, 2009 01:29 AM
http://www.associatedcontent.com/video/125056/how_to_make_a_gift_box.html?cat=2
Perhaps something here could help too?
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Perhaps something here could help too?
July 23, 2009 12:33 AM
I'm not sure if you've prowled instuctables.com. They have a bunch of cool ideas!
What about this link of boxes made from left over cardboard office storage?
http://www.instructables.com/id/Cardboard-Office-Storage-Boxes/
If you want to show them how 'green' you are, you could use a cereal box?
http://www.instructables.com/id/Book_Cover_from_Cereal_Box/
You might find some interesting tips on making new boxes out of old cardboard boxes here...
http://www.instructables.com/id/A_Faster_Easier_Way_to_Make_Boxes/
Again, I've just been bouncing around on instructables.com and you might find more than what I found.
Good Luck Rob!
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July 23, 2009 12:50 AM
I'm not sure if this is what you are looking for but these boxes seem pretty great and easy to make! http://www.wonderhowto.com/how-to/video/how-to-make-a-cute-gift-box-249356/
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July 23, 2009 12:59 AM
Gettin' close... if something like this could be modified to meet my exact requirements I'd be sold!
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July 23, 2009 01:08 AM
I think I may have found what you are looking for! It looks as if this template would work for any size cardstock! Then I would suggest printing out your design/logo and attaching it to the top!
http://blog.craftzine.com/archive/2008/10/paper_box_templates.html
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July 23, 2009 01:04 PM
Getting close... can you think of a way to modify any of those designs to meet my requirements?
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Thanks!
July 23, 2009 01:28 AM
Hi Rob, Here are a few links that I thought might at least inspire other ideas:
Here is a display stand made of Origami:
Origami Display Stand
Another idea is packaging that turns in to desktop organizer.
The closest thing I could find was this TV stand:
Arpro packaging turns in to a TV stand
The example is definitely not a DIY, but perhaps something similar could be made by hand with thick paper.
I was thinking half could be your display stand and half could be either an organizer (shelf) or possibly a desktop calendar.
For the desktop calendar I was thinking a DIY origami job, with an end result something like this:
Wooden Desktop Calendar
Only made of paper.
Here is a template for making the cubes:
Origami Cube
Perhaps the cubes could be pre-printed, but require assembly by the client.
A way to make it interesting (but hopefully not too difficult) for the client.
Here is instructions for making boxes from origami:
Origami Gift Boxes in Fabric or Paper
And another idea is some sort of desktop photo frame made from (part of?) the packaging materials.
Origami Photo Frame
Origami Photo Frame 2
Fancy Origami Photo Frame
Nothing perfect here, but hopefully it will spark some other ideas!
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July 23, 2009 01:12 PM
Of course you would be the person to suggest Origami options!!!! :)
Great suggestions. My biggest concern with these options is that when folded with cardstock (or similar), they will take an exceptionally long time to create.
The Arpro tv stand is particularly interesting. If I could craft something like that out of fiber board or similar a sliding design like that would rock. It might be a little too complicated though.
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Great suggestions. My biggest concern with these options is that when folded with cardstock (or similar), they will take an exceptionally long time to create.
The Arpro tv stand is particularly interesting. If I could craft something like that out of fiber board or similar a sliding design like that would rock. It might be a little too complicated though.
July 23, 2009 01:46 AM
I think your best to go with a cigarette type box. here is a nice little instructional on how to make a flip top box, the scale is smaller than what you were looking for but you could use larger sheets of paper and just make a larger box. you could customize it however you saw fit so it could be "fancier" if you like.
Since it is able to stand alone you could also use it as a display box by folding the front flap into the the back behind the pamphlets, or make the front flap longer and you could flip it behind the box folding it in the opposite direction of the original creases making a sturdy "leg" for the box to lean on when tipped on it's back.
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http://sassyinkdesigns.blogspot.com/2009/06/flip-top-box-tutorial.html
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July 23, 2009 02:12 AM
There are so many interesting ideas already! However, I still have an idea which might be just what you're looking for. It's somewhat similar to a standard manilla envelope, but it's made from a heavier card stock for strength, yet it's easy to assemble. Plus, it's very easy to close, and it will stay closed; without having to use any glues, tape, etc. This is something that I've designed somewhat quickly, so don't mind the somewhat messy drawings. I've measured that a stack of standard 11"x8.5" paper is 1/8" thick. I've decided that the height of the compartment that the paper would be put in is 5/32" thick, which is slightly over 1/8" thick. This way, the paper will still be held firmly inside the compartment, but will still be loose enough for you to take out and put in the paper. Each face of the package is 11.5" in length by 8.75" in width. Here's a diagram:
To assemble, follow these instructions:
1. Each side tab folds twice. Fold each one up from the fold connecting directly to the Face 2. Then, fold along the second fold 5/32" upwards. All of these folds should be inwards.
2. You'll notice a triangle at the bottom of each side tab. Fold this along the solid black line (you'll notice this in the "detail" box), so that the small triangle is now facing inwards.
3. Do this with the other side tab.
4. Optional: On each side tab, you can glue or tape the larger part of the tab and the small triangle together.
5. Put glue on top of the now folded side tab. Fold Face 1 over this, so that you now have a compartment.
6. To close it, fill your box with paper, and then fold the closing tab over the paper and inside the box. You can secure this by taping it down.
7. To display it, you'll find two display tabs on either side of the bottom of Face 1. They are folded along the black lines, and at the bottom of each square portion of the display tab is a notch. On the closing tab at the top, there are notches on either side of the display tab. Make sure your box is already folded before displaying. With Face 1 facing you on the folded box, fold up the two display tabs, along with the closing tab, so the squares fall below the closing tab. To lock the closing tab into place, put the notches together. To support it, cut out a piece of cardboard or something like that. I'll post a picture of these directions in a reply.
That's my design... I can imagine that some of these directions may be somewhat vague, so please don't hesitate to ask me if you need any clarification on anything mentioned above.
I hope that I was of assistance, and good luck on your box quest!
Highest Regards,
-Beau Brown
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July 23, 2009 03:21 AM
Here's the display option. Please use the picture below for the overall diagram, as it has the display tabs:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/5734/boxdesigndisplaytabs.png
And to create the displaying box, simply fold up the display tabs along with the closing tab so that the square parts of the display tab falls below the closing tab as shown. Then, fold the square tab into the closing tab as shown with the notches.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/9159/displaytaboption.png
I hope that helps too. Once again, please let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks again,
-Beau Brown
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And to create the displaying box, simply fold up the display tabs along with the closing tab so that the square parts of the display tab falls below the closing tab as shown. Then, fold the square tab into the closing tab as shown with the notches.
I hope that helps too. Once again, please let me know if you have any questions!
Thanks again,
-Beau Brown
July 23, 2009 01:14 PM
Whoa
This is looking VERY interesting.
I'm going to make it and see how it looks.
You're defiantly in the running Beau!
Thank-you very much.
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This is looking VERY interesting.
I'm going to make it and see how it looks.
You're defiantly in the running Beau!
Thank-you very much.
July 23, 2009 07:38 PM
Hello Rob!
You're more than welcome; I'm thrilled that you like my idea! Good luck making it, and be sure to tell me how it goes. I'm always available if you have any questions.
Thanks!
-Beau Brown
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You're more than welcome; I'm thrilled that you like my idea! Good luck making it, and be sure to tell me how it goes. I'm always available if you have any questions.
Thanks!
-Beau Brown
July 23, 2009 03:51 AM
What you need is a think layer of cardboard, accordion paper, plastic window, velcro, double sided tape (for adhesive to stick to brochure), and some glue. The picture should be fairly self explanatory, and rather than get into all the dimensions, I'm sure you can figure that out!
Hopefully this helps! This should be the best answer, as this is the most unique holder for brochures, it's compact and it does it right!
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Hopefully this helps! This should be the best answer, as this is the most unique holder for brochures, it's compact and it does it right!
July 23, 2009 01:20 PM
E, this could very well be the most unique design!!!!! Thank-you.
I'm having trouble visualizing it. How does the kickstand connect to the back of the A-frame?
I like the idea of separating the brochures with the accordion. However, I'm not sure how that connects into things either... and how does the brochure stay seated when displayed?
Sorry for all the questions... it's just that I think that you've got a really good design. I want to try making it but am having trouble.
Please help!
Thanks a lot for the answer! You rock.
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I'm having trouble visualizing it. How does the kickstand connect to the back of the A-frame?
I like the idea of separating the brochures with the accordion. However, I'm not sure how that connects into things either... and how does the brochure stay seated when displayed?
Sorry for all the questions... it's just that I think that you've got a really good design. I want to try making it but am having trouble.
Please help!
Thanks a lot for the answer! You rock.
July 23, 2009 02:31 PM
Rob, Thank you for your thoughts. This is the most unique design, and I'm pretty confident about that. To answer your question about how the kickstand would would connect to the back of the A-Frame could be answered in various ways. There would be a piece of velcro that holds the kickstand to put it at rest, and then it would swivel down and lock into place. The kickstand would be connected through a tiny pin that allows it to swivel.
How does the brochure stay seated when displayed? Good question! There would either be a little folder that would hold the brochure or a double sided adhesive tape that would stick the brochure temporarily to the display window.
http://img.skitch.com/20090723-gicn7qq97mky94utedwymsw23q.jpg
http://img.skitch.com/20090723-fqdxc71htnmxucbpc4ndu3365e.jpg
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How does the brochure stay seated when displayed? Good question! There would either be a little folder that would hold the brochure or a double sided adhesive tape that would stick the brochure temporarily to the display window.
July 23, 2009 02:55 AM
OK bear with me on this :) I only had copy paper on hand and this is basically a home made envelope that you can choose the card stock and print your logo design on
Start with 11x17 card stock
Print your logo graphic design centered 1 1/4 of an inch from each long side and 3 1/4" from the "top" and 3" above the bottom and place logo/design facing down.
Fold in 1 1/8th inch on each long side
Fold in 2 7/8 inches on from the "bottom" short side
Insert brochures inside folds
fold down the "Top" 3 inches down to create a seam the then create 45 degree folds on the corners with to bottom of the folds being at 2 7/8" from the top
Place glue on fold flaps facing you with the exception of the "top" 45 degree folds.
Place an 11 x 8.5 piece of card stock on the flaps with the glue.
Fold down the top and seal as you please. (I suggest glue and a really cool "RB" wax seal.
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July 23, 2009 03:23 AM
it seems to me that the bottom line for you in this project is QUALITY. please don't take this the wrong way, but i don't think you are going to get the quality you want from friends and family with scissors and glue guns, even though you can probably get a quality design for the box.
that being said... i did some searching and found some companies that do custom boxes in smaller quantities.
http://www.custommadecorrugatedboxes.com/
their site says this:
Custom corrugated cardboard boxes
MADE TO ORDER
Custom corrugated cardboard boxes in small quantities, custom made to your exact specifications, without set-up fees or die charges.
* Any Time ... Standard 1 week delivery, same day available
* Any Size ... Boxes for baseballs as well as refrigerators
* Any Style ... See our many styles on our box sizing page
* Any Quantity ... One box to any quantity (we specialize in quantities of 1000 or Fewer)
* Avoid Expenses ... NO die charges or set-up fees
We can supply you with almost ANY corrugated shipping container in ANY QUANTITY and in your hands within a few days!
http://www.cactuscontainers.com/
their site says this:
Save Money - Save Space - Buy Smaller Quantities.
Buy Only What You Need - Buy from Cactus!
Cactus Containers Specializes in Custom-Made boxes & packaging. Whatever the size, whatever the style, we can deliver!
For over 30 years, Cactus Containers has helped customers just like you create stunning looking boxes and packaging solutions. No matter what style or size you need, with Cactus Containers you’ll get the packaging you want, on time and on budget - GUARANTEED!!
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looking at the second site brought me to this box:
http://www.cactuscontainers.com/POPUP_generic.asp?photo=mailer-07.jpg&title=Large%20Image
it think if you took a box like this and asked them to modify it so that if it was standing up vertically as you specified in your question, and then have the box open via a seam across the middle front of the box it would be the proper size and orientation you are looking for. (you might need it to be narrower for the quantity you want)
2 options for making it a standing display:
design option 1:
when it opened, only the top half of the front panel and the top edge of the box would come off, and it should be able to be detached across the top to leave the upper half of the front open with no top on the box. if this detachable (probably by perforations) portion could then be attached to the back of the package to act as a prop or stand, i think you would have what you want.
design option 2:
or if the front could open by that seam, then the top half could be lifted and pulled over and behind the box low enough to reach the table top and expose the brochures at the top, i think that would also work.
either way, i think a box like that is your solution.
buying from a company that has no set up fees or die charges, or just even one that does small quantities should give you the quality you are looking for at a price that doesn't break the budget.
even if you still want to contract your friends and family... i think that doing the box with a horizontal split across the short side of the front of the box and making that open upwards is going to give you the display options.
sure sparked our imaginations... thanks for a great question!
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http://www.custommadecorrugatedboxes.com/
http://www.cactuscontainers.com/
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July 23, 2009 01:31 PM
Thanks for your answer, Smartweb! I really appreciate it.
I'm going to have a close look at those companies. I don't think that I've seen them before. However, in receiving quotes and samples from discount packaging companies, I've found that they either use inconsistent or inexpensive materials, charge an arm and a leg for printing (or don't offer it). Also, I haven't been able to find anyone who doesn't charge for die's that can create something truly custom. So a couple of my requirements can't be met. I'd love to be able to simply purchase the boxes though, so I'm going to give these guys you suggested a call. Thanks.
As for the "friends and family" labor - I have an exceptionally talented slave labor workforce. I even have a couple of folks who are trained in papercraft :) Once we have the design and a solid workflow, I'm quite confidant that with a case of beer and some "girly" drinks, that we can rock out a pro assembly line.
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I'm going to have a close look at those companies. I don't think that I've seen them before. However, in receiving quotes and samples from discount packaging companies, I've found that they either use inconsistent or inexpensive materials, charge an arm and a leg for printing (or don't offer it). Also, I haven't been able to find anyone who doesn't charge for die's that can create something truly custom. So a couple of my requirements can't be met. I'd love to be able to simply purchase the boxes though, so I'm going to give these guys you suggested a call. Thanks.
As for the "friends and family" labor - I have an exceptionally talented slave labor workforce. I even have a couple of folks who are trained in papercraft :) Once we have the design and a solid workflow, I'm quite confidant that with a case of beer and some "girly" drinks, that we can rock out a pro assembly line.
July 23, 2009 05:35 PM
i added a comment earlier, but for some reason it is no longer showing up...
i'm glad that i could give you some sites you hadn't seen before.
and the first company specifically says that it does not charge for set up fees or die charges... which is one reason i included them.
as for your family and friends, it sounds like you have a talented bunch. i do as well but i don't think that is the norm out there.
in any case, no matter what design you choose, i think we'd all like to see the finished product. this has been an interesting exercise. really great question.
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i'm glad that i could give you some sites you hadn't seen before.
and the first company specifically says that it does not charge for set up fees or die charges... which is one reason i included them.
as for your family and friends, it sounds like you have a talented bunch. i do as well but i don't think that is the norm out there.
in any case, no matter what design you choose, i think we'd all like to see the finished product. this has been an interesting exercise. really great question.
July 23, 2009 09:14 AM
I think the best option to get what you want at a lower price is to coerce some undergraduate industrial design student at some art school to do it for you. They would have access to better quality construction aids. As a person who has done paper projects before, I would not do this one myself. It is hard to do professional-looking, standardized paper projects all DIY. The scoring and cutting is usually a pain, and easily goes wrong (especially if you're not working with really nice paper cutters and scorers). And this is not even including glue--which I would not use, because most displays I see don't use glue at all. If you could get someone to design and send you however many boxes you need unassembled, it'd look more professional and you could easily assemble them. You could also try freelancers as well--I'd look up industrial designers. They'd be cheaper than some firm, I bet.
Source(s):
www.ifreelance.com
www.guru.com
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July 23, 2009 01:34 PM
I was hoping that rather than go to the freelance websites that I might be able to engage the community here, Zesi. So far it's worked out great.
If you have any specific references for industrial design folks, please show them this question! I'm offering up an adequate tip for a very rough mockup. I'm also tipping extra so if someone has a great design but needs a couple of more bucks, I'm open to that too!
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If you have any specific references for industrial design folks, please show them this question! I'm offering up an adequate tip for a very rough mockup. I'm also tipping extra so if someone has a great design but needs a couple of more bucks, I'm open to that too!
July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
I'm thinking along the lines of a shallow box, maybe 9 x 12 x 1 inches, which can double as a display case. The entire front of the box opens up as a removable flap about 2/3 of the way down, revealing the brochures inside. A second flap in the back of the box opens from the top and folds down to provide a support so the box can stand upright; this flap is wide enough to provide support but narrow enough so that the brochures don't fall out the back of the box/display case.
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July 23, 2009 01:35 PM
Doesn't sound like a bad solution, Badaspie... but I'm having troulbe visualizing it.
Part of my problem is that I don't perceive 3D objects well in my head. Can you clarify?
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Part of my problem is that I don't perceive 3D objects well in my head. Can you clarify?
July 24, 2009 10:34 AM
I drew up a sketch; now let's see if I embedded it it properly.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/badaspie/3751278049/
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July 24, 2009 10:54 AM
Obviously not.
I don't know if you can see anything there, but the view on the left is the top of the box, with the fold line for the flap indicated. This would be secured by two flaps wrapping over the top of the box as indicated in the center. On the right is the back of the box; the stand is precut and unfolds, again being secured with a flap at the top.
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I don't know if you can see anything there, but the view on the left is the top of the box, with the fold line for the flap indicated. This would be secured by two flaps wrapping over the top of the box as indicated in the center. On the right is the back of the box; the stand is precut and unfolds, again being secured with a flap at the top.
July 23, 2009 12:38 PM
Sorry I don't have any additional design ideas, but I did want to mention a few things about shipping. I work for the postal service. I see hundreds of parcels every day. Please realize that despite any admonishment to "Handle With Care" or any number of "Fragile" markings, a cardstock box would not be strong enough to withstand shipping on its own. Even light cardboard (such department store shirt) boxes are often too flimsy to arrive in good condition. I understand your desire to increase the perceived value of your product and find a cost-effective solution, but those efforts would be negated if the container were to arrive in dented or damaged condition. If you are set on using a box, it needs to be rigid cardboard. Good luck!
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July 23, 2009 12:57 PM
Good tip on the postal service.
Yes, I've had my fair share of "experience" with Canada Post. Generally, it's quite good - but I feel 'ya with the strength of cardstock.
Usually, these brochures are hand delivered. If not by me, then by the local print shop. Sometimes, they are even picked up by the customer. So, while the boxes need to be strong, they don't need to be indestructible.
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Yes, I've had my fair share of "experience" with Canada Post. Generally, it's quite good - but I feel 'ya with the strength of cardstock.
Usually, these brochures are hand delivered. If not by me, then by the local print shop. Sometimes, they are even picked up by the customer. So, while the boxes need to be strong, they don't need to be indestructible.
July 23, 2009 07:01 PM
I got a great idea. I don't think you need to make a box, you can simply buy one. I found these great boxes that are PERFECT for your brochures! Their Easy-Fold Mailers, they are cheap and don't come in huge quantities. You have two choices, one of them has an adhesive strip for easy sealing. And another one doesn't. But I get the feeling that you want to make your boxes special. Well, here's another idea. How about decorating it with some Flickr photos? It will make the box look more distinguished.
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First of all, choose one of the boxes from the link below. White ones are best.
This one has no easy adhesive strip- http://www.uline.com/BL_1302/Easy-Fold-White-Mailers
This one does-http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers
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Once you select a box use this site to make a mosaic using Flickr photos. I would suggest a mosaic, for your boxes as it seems more appropriate but http://bighugelabs.com/ gives you many different things you can do with photos, you can add calendars or even make them into magazine covers. I made a mosaic from Flickr photo sets, take a look.
http://tu.nu/wBbJ
You can use this site to place your photos strategically-
http://www.boxcoop.com/designtips.htm
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You can save the mosaic to your computer and open it with windows photo gallery, then print them out. They will be smaller then the original mosaic. Or you can buy the mosaic from the site. If you want to print them yourself use white card stock paper.
I also found this box, you might be able to make it.
http://tu.nu/c7nE
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July 23, 2009 07:22 PM
I love the idea of being able to buy something off the shelf. However, I want something creative and effective. I want the packaging of my brochures to reflect the creativity and value that is inside.
Graphic design is no problem - I already know what I'm going to do... just need the box!
If you can help me design a package, I'd love to see it!
Thanks
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Graphic design is no problem - I already know what I'm going to do... just need the box!
If you can help me design a package, I'd love to see it!
Thanks
July 23, 2009 07:37 PM
Hi, Rob I think you only saw my first half of my answer I edited and now added all my info.
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July 23, 2009 07:55 PM
WOW Rob, You have everyone looking here, LOL Good Question., and a Hard one too. I have seen this type throughout my search and this one keeps appearing either the tab Tok Tuck Top boxes or the One Piece folder. they both are mailing boxes and they both are strong enough to use a display box too. http://www.customcardboardboxes.com/gallery2.htm. I am sure you could add your logo or maybe even parts of your brochure to fancy the box up some. Here is another one kind of like the one above http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers.
Hope this helps some and good luck to all that is doing a search for Rob !
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http://www.customcardboardboxes.com/gallery2.htm
http://www.uline.com/BL_1305/Deluxe-Easy-Fold-Mailers
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July 24, 2009 04:21 PM
Hey, Rob, interesting question. Here's my idea... The box would be 8.5x11x0.5in just big enough to fit everything. It's made from two full 11x17 sheets of cardstock. One sheet is folded to make the box bottom and the other the top. The box can be turned into a stand by taping the top and bottom on one edge and stand it up house of cards style. The other stand idea (pictured below) involves gluing half of the top and bottom together then trimming the top so it can swing open.
I know mine looks flimsy because I didn't have any 11x17 sheets so I had to tape some laser printer paper together and experimented a while. Although, with the cardstock it would be much stonger and cleaner looking. Using hot glue instead of tape would hold all the folds nice and flat and make the box much more sturdy.
Instead of cardstock you may even be able to use really thin coroplast (corrugated plastic). You could fold it at right angles by cutting 45degree V-notches with an exacto knife. Then fill the notches with hot glue so the fold stays. It would make really nice looking corners too.
Steps (according to drawing below):
1) Cut until 2.75in marks
2) Fold on 2.75in marks into middle and open the fold
3) Fold on 2.25in marks into middle and open the fold
4) Fold on 1.75in marks behind (the other way)
5) Fold inward on 1.0in marks
6) Fold inward on 0.5in marks
7) Fold parallel down edge to make tabs to fold under edges 2 & 3
8) See flickr pictures of folds
9) To make the top repeat everything except make folds 2 & 5 a little further out. This way the top will fit around the box bottom. You'll also have to shrink the size of 6 & 3 & 4 as well.
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July 25, 2009 11:16 AM
Whoa! I'm going to make this and test it out. This looks very promising, Andyroo!
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July 26, 2009 12:27 PM
Thanks! Give me a shout if there are any issues with the directions, box, etc. I can always take more pictures or tweak the design.
I was just thinking, I hope there's enough room for the 20 brochures since the box is only a 1/2 inch tall. I figured they couldn't be too much more than 3/8 inch tall. If more room is needed it would be fairly easy to reduce the distance on fold 6 & 3 to raise up the edges.
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I was just thinking, I hope there's enough room for the 20 brochures since the box is only a 1/2 inch tall. I figured they couldn't be too much more than 3/8 inch tall. If more room is needed it would be fairly easy to reduce the distance on fold 6 & 3 to raise up the edges.
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I'm curious to see what he thinks of this answer. Good finds @gno !!
Generally, I like both of the designs that you found. However, neither of them fit perfectly with what I'm looking for.
Excluding the ability to turn into a display...
I don't think that the 2 piece design of the second would ship very well. I'd have to tape all the way around the seam and then the customer would have to cut or worse, rip the tape off.
The first is getting very close, but would take an exceptionally large (likely custom cut) piece of paper to house 8.5x11 brochures.
What I do like about your answer is that it's the closest so far. You've taken note of my requirements and found links to things that other people have made that I could make. However, neither of these options is "perfect" / "best".
I've had a very good look online. I can't find anything online that meets my requirements and I'm (sometimes) pretty good at finding things online.
I put a M$50 tip on this because I don't think that what I need exists. I need help to create / design a solution.
Can you help me design a package?
Once you accept that you will have to use an adhesive of some kind, then we can get creative.
I'm going to give it some thought this evening....
"My printer cannot print over 11x17 so ideally, the box will not use a "face" that is larger than that."
Ideally, I won't have to use a single sheet of paper that is larger than 11x17. However, shipping (plus all of my other crazy limitations) must be kept in mind. While very few of them will be shipped, I would hate for them to fall apart in in the purolator truck in the event they are shipped.
Can you give some details on the category of the brochures?
I would like to know what themes would fit the content.
Thanks!
http://rapidshare.com/files/259096158/Rob_s_Box.pdf.html
I wanted to share it here for my own archival purposes and so that you could see a really good submission.
I'm not convinced it's perfect yet and there are some other great ideas already here. If you think that you can improve Gno's design, I'd love to see what you've come up with.
Thanks Gno.