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Are "Real Dolls" helpful, hurtful, or both to people who own them? Would you ever own one?
Last night on BBC America there was a program titled "Love Me, Love My Doll" about men who have a strong attachment to their Real Dolls. If you are not familiar with Real Dolls, these are realistic sex dolls. Dolls have a poseable PVC skeleton with steel joints and silicone flesh. The program had to blur out images of the naked dolls--that's how realistic they look.
http://www.culturekitchen.com/files/Real-DollBritney12.JPG
NSFW Link: http://www.realdoll.com/
The men profiled in the video talked and treated their dolls as if they were real people. This included talking about them in first person. I've included a clip I found on YouTube which shows the first person featured. What amazes me is that this guy could afford a doll (which costs $6500) but is living at home with his parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NeVI2kWsjE
My questions:
Are the dolls doing more harm then good?
Are they preventing the men from establishing real relationships with women? Or do you think that these men would be loners either way?
Is there any circumstances where you think that having a real doll would be a good thing for someone?
Is it telling that while there are 16 different female dolls, there is only 1 male doll? (Although shemale dolls are an option).
Would you ever own one? Why or why not?
I don't want to put this in the NSFW category, so please keep it clean.
NSFW Link: http://www.realdoll.com/
The men profiled in the video talked and treated their dolls as if they were real people. This included talking about them in first person. I've included a clip I found on YouTube which shows the first person featured. What amazes me is that this guy could afford a doll (which costs $6500) but is living at home with his parents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NeVI2kWsjE
My questions:
Are the dolls doing more harm then good?
Are they preventing the men from establishing real relationships with women? Or do you think that these men would be loners either way?
Is there any circumstances where you think that having a real doll would be a good thing for someone?
Is it telling that while there are 16 different female dolls, there is only 1 male doll? (Although shemale dolls are an option).
Would you ever own one? Why or why not?
I don't want to put this in the NSFW category, so please keep it clean.
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I'm reminded of my wedding. Not that my wife is a rubber doll, or anything. (Although, I probably wouldn't get into as much trouble with her if she were, but that's another story.) But specifically, it reminds me of a conversation I had with my dad at the reception.
First, my dad: a relatively laid back Michigan State Trooper a few years from retirement. He's a Baptist and he votes Republican.
Naturally, I was prepared for a bit of awkwardness after my wife's dad showed up.
My wife's dad: Born named Sean, but now goes by the name of Sharon. He divorced my wife's mother, shortly after my wife and I met, to live full time as a woman, moving across the country to work as a nurse and to date a lesbian in a relationship that smacks you in the cheek and defies you to classify it somehow. (He also votes Republican. Go figure.)
Ultimately, though, there was no real awkwardness. Talking to me about it that night, my dad said simply, "Well, son, a man's got to go whereever his stick floats... even if it's inward." He said it with more tolerance and sincerity than I ever expected (not that I think ill of my father, but Baptists aren't exactly famous for their tolerance of transgendered folks).
I think the main reason I'm reminded of that annecdote is because it's incredibly easy to see these stories and think, "My God, how messed up do you have to be... etc." But ultimately human beings are ridiculously flawed creatures. We're the only animal to have the gift of abstract thought. This gift allows us to percieve and create ideals--be they of art, science, language, or the most salient to this answer, an ideal of mental health. Yet the very same brain that percieves these ideals, that validates these ideals, plagues us with guilt for not achieving their standard.
The pursuit of happiness is one of the most ancient concepts of philosophy and psychology, and while a full discussion of it is well beyond the scope of this answer, I will say that this conflict between the Ideal and the Actual is a big part of the concept of happiness and unhappiness.
So then, we more normal people are still people. We have our flaws and private shames. It is therefore very easy, and in a sense, reassuring to look at people who are unhealthilly attached to an artificual sex toy and say "Thank God I'm not THAT screwed up."
But then again, I'm reminded of my dad and my upbringing. I was raised a Baptist, and even though I ultimately ended up being an atheist, I still value some of the virtues of the scriptures. One of my favorites, and most relavent to the question at hand, is "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
As to whether or not I would own one, hell no! Please believe if I had $6,500 dollars to spend on something frivolous it would be on a TV.
First, my dad: a relatively laid back Michigan State Trooper a few years from retirement. He's a Baptist and he votes Republican.
Naturally, I was prepared for a bit of awkwardness after my wife's dad showed up.
My wife's dad: Born named Sean, but now goes by the name of Sharon. He divorced my wife's mother, shortly after my wife and I met, to live full time as a woman, moving across the country to work as a nurse and to date a lesbian in a relationship that smacks you in the cheek and defies you to classify it somehow. (He also votes Republican. Go figure.)
Ultimately, though, there was no real awkwardness. Talking to me about it that night, my dad said simply, "Well, son, a man's got to go whereever his stick floats... even if it's inward." He said it with more tolerance and sincerity than I ever expected (not that I think ill of my father, but Baptists aren't exactly famous for their tolerance of transgendered folks).
I think the main reason I'm reminded of that annecdote is because it's incredibly easy to see these stories and think, "My God, how messed up do you have to be... etc." But ultimately human beings are ridiculously flawed creatures. We're the only animal to have the gift of abstract thought. This gift allows us to percieve and create ideals--be they of art, science, language, or the most salient to this answer, an ideal of mental health. Yet the very same brain that percieves these ideals, that validates these ideals, plagues us with guilt for not achieving their standard.
The pursuit of happiness is one of the most ancient concepts of philosophy and psychology, and while a full discussion of it is well beyond the scope of this answer, I will say that this conflict between the Ideal and the Actual is a big part of the concept of happiness and unhappiness.
So then, we more normal people are still people. We have our flaws and private shames. It is therefore very easy, and in a sense, reassuring to look at people who are unhealthilly attached to an artificual sex toy and say "Thank God I'm not THAT screwed up."
But then again, I'm reminded of my dad and my upbringing. I was raised a Baptist, and even though I ultimately ended up being an atheist, I still value some of the virtues of the scriptures. One of my favorites, and most relavent to the question at hand, is "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."
As to whether or not I would own one, hell no! Please believe if I had $6,500 dollars to spend on something frivolous it would be on a TV.
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Several really good answers. This was a really hard decision to make. I don't know why this is any better than the others. I more think that it was not less so.
From a sexual stand point it allows for experimentation with out the risk of contracting illness. I don't think they are causing harm. Some might claim it promotes objectification of sexual partners. I guess it really depends on how you are using it and the mindset of the person using the device. It could be viewed as no more then a sexual toy like several other devices on the market. I will stay with no I don't think it is harmful.
I don't think they prevent men from having relationships with women. I think women prevent women from having relationships with men. A person who is willing suspend reality enough to assign living characteristics and personality to an inanimate object has more pressing mental issues then their relationships with women. They could have severe dissociative disorders or antisocial disorders etc. It's really hard to say what kind of men they would be. I would guess they are going to be people who lack social and communications skills and might well have had some kind of experience with rejection by peers or even sexual partners.
The real doll could be helpful in building confidence sexually if used as an aid to over come fears and hesitations with relation to intimate contact. It could allow the person to explore their personal preferences without the fear of rejection and embarrassment. This doll would be a great tool at sexual workshops for couples or even people looking for some kind of education in the process of intimate contact.
I would never own one. Mostly because I have no need for such devices and sex is very low on my priority list. It's also very expensive and I have children living with me. I am not fond of the idea of going to a PTA meeting and having my kids drop the fact a rubber woman lives in my room. It would be very awkward.
The fact that there are more women dolls then males speaks only to the fact that males exhibit larger visual sexual stimulation then women. The company offers the number of models it has based on it's market research that it did at the time they were coming out with the product line. I would have to guess they offer male models to try and include homosexual and women clientele. The hermaphrodite model is I am sure geared more to the fringes of the exotic sexual market.
That is about all I care to say on the real doll.
I don't think they prevent men from having relationships with women. I think women prevent women from having relationships with men. A person who is willing suspend reality enough to assign living characteristics and personality to an inanimate object has more pressing mental issues then their relationships with women. They could have severe dissociative disorders or antisocial disorders etc. It's really hard to say what kind of men they would be. I would guess they are going to be people who lack social and communications skills and might well have had some kind of experience with rejection by peers or even sexual partners.
The real doll could be helpful in building confidence sexually if used as an aid to over come fears and hesitations with relation to intimate contact. It could allow the person to explore their personal preferences without the fear of rejection and embarrassment. This doll would be a great tool at sexual workshops for couples or even people looking for some kind of education in the process of intimate contact.
I would never own one. Mostly because I have no need for such devices and sex is very low on my priority list. It's also very expensive and I have children living with me. I am not fond of the idea of going to a PTA meeting and having my kids drop the fact a rubber woman lives in my room. It would be very awkward.
The fact that there are more women dolls then males speaks only to the fact that males exhibit larger visual sexual stimulation then women. The company offers the number of models it has based on it's market research that it did at the time they were coming out with the product line. I would have to guess they offer male models to try and include homosexual and women clientele. The hermaphrodite model is I am sure geared more to the fringes of the exotic sexual market.
That is about all I care to say on the real doll.
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I was a mental health worker and have experience with starting companies.
i think this is a no-brainer.
obviously it does harm and zero good haha.
The man does not own teh doll to appreciate it's artor detail(although since they are now manufactured there hardly a sense of real art in them anyways)
the dolls are created for the purpose "banging" and that is it.
they are not made to be companions are anything obviously. the dolls is made of materials in a factory. it is not the same as owning a pet and certainly not the same as a real human companion.
this man has obviously degenerated deeper and deeper and become obsessed with his perversion. to the point it not only interferes with his life but consumes it. instead of meeting a real woman or even getting out on his own. He prefers and even looks forward to staying home alone all day with a toy he bought for his own pathetic pleasures.
what i dont understand is why on earth his parents put up with it.they obviously recognize the fact that the doll is nothing but a doll yet they still allow their son to live at home all day "playing" with the doll. if they were really concerned i would think they would kick him out and force him to get a job etc.
the guy in the video doesn't even recognize the unnaturalness of sleeping with a doll. h reconizes the patheticsness of living with his parents but not the fact he is sleeping and having a relationship with a doll.
overall its sad that these things are made in the first place. as society degenerates into moral decay the producers are more than eager to produce absurd goods to satisfy the perverse desires of the degenerating consumers. and of course its being ignorant and intollerant if you judge people or do not accept this behavior lol
but yeah in a nutshell i thinks its pretty clear to anyone the dolls aretrouble for their owners.
the owner has sealed his fate as a loser by now never going out to meet a real because he is too busy in a relationship with his doll
obviously it does harm and zero good haha.
The man does not own teh doll to appreciate it's artor detail(although since they are now manufactured there hardly a sense of real art in them anyways)
the dolls are created for the purpose "banging" and that is it.
they are not made to be companions are anything obviously. the dolls is made of materials in a factory. it is not the same as owning a pet and certainly not the same as a real human companion.
this man has obviously degenerated deeper and deeper and become obsessed with his perversion. to the point it not only interferes with his life but consumes it. instead of meeting a real woman or even getting out on his own. He prefers and even looks forward to staying home alone all day with a toy he bought for his own pathetic pleasures.
what i dont understand is why on earth his parents put up with it.they obviously recognize the fact that the doll is nothing but a doll yet they still allow their son to live at home all day "playing" with the doll. if they were really concerned i would think they would kick him out and force him to get a job etc.
the guy in the video doesn't even recognize the unnaturalness of sleeping with a doll. h reconizes the patheticsness of living with his parents but not the fact he is sleeping and having a relationship with a doll.
overall its sad that these things are made in the first place. as society degenerates into moral decay the producers are more than eager to produce absurd goods to satisfy the perverse desires of the degenerating consumers. and of course its being ignorant and intollerant if you judge people or do not accept this behavior lol
but yeah in a nutshell i thinks its pretty clear to anyone the dolls aretrouble for their owners.
the owner has sealed his fate as a loser by now never going out to meet a real because he is too busy in a relationship with his doll
You are looking only at the one isolated instance of the use of this product.
The person asking the question asked about men in general and not just this one isolated case.
To say that every person who buys these dolls is exactly the same as the subject in the video is grossly inaccurate and exhibits personal bias while soundly falling into the realm of hearsay.
Also to the person with the trigger finger on unhelpful. I addressed everything requested in the question and in the manner and tone required by the person asking from personal experience. It was not unhelpful.
The person asking the question asked about men in general and not just this one isolated case.
To say that every person who buys these dolls is exactly the same as the subject in the video is grossly inaccurate and exhibits personal bias while soundly falling into the realm of hearsay.
Also to the person with the trigger finger on unhelpful. I addressed everything requested in the question and in the manner and tone required by the person asking from personal experience. It was not unhelpful.
I actually thought this was a helpful answer...and not just because he agrees with me...It was well thought out, worded decently, and approached multiple viewpoints...
easy on the hair-triggers guys...
easy on the hair-triggers guys...
i am not trying to infer that every person who goes to purchase a doll will end up like this. but the dolls are created for the purpose of playing with. and a person whom purchases one wil have their time preoccupied with the doll rather than going out to meet women.not to mention it won't help them at all whenever they do considering the ways a dol acts and a woman act are vastly different. owning the doll is all about bring pleasure to yourself, and you partner might not appreciate that philosophy whenever you decide to get one.
i dot think this particular man would go out and meet women even if he didnt own a doll so he would be a poor example for this argument.
all the doll would do is impair ones prowess as the owner becomes used to making it with a doll rather than a real person.
this isnt even mentioning thing like erectile dysfunction that would ensue due being used to getting off in aa doll rather than a real *
also cmon guy no jumping to conclusions, i didnt mark unhelpful on the above answer. i just commented because it wouldnt let me reply so i said it througha comment on the only answer provided at the time
i dot think this particular man would go out and meet women even if he didnt own a doll so he would be a poor example for this argument.
all the doll would do is impair ones prowess as the owner becomes used to making it with a doll rather than a real person.
this isnt even mentioning thing like erectile dysfunction that would ensue due being used to getting off in aa doll rather than a real *
also cmon guy no jumping to conclusions, i didnt mark unhelpful on the above answer. i just commented because it wouldnt let me reply so i said it througha comment on the only answer provided at the time
also the popular show "ghost in teh shell" addresses this issue a number of time except in that series the dolls are not working robots simply devoid of a soul or emotions
then you get into tricky business as to what defines hmans being humans and what sets ua apart especially as more and more humans turn to technological parts to enhance our lives. the line can sometimes appear blurred which makes for all kinds of exciting dicussions on souls etc.
then you get into tricky business as to what defines hmans being humans and what sets ua apart especially as more and more humans turn to technological parts to enhance our lives. the line can sometimes appear blurred which makes for all kinds of exciting dicussions on souls etc.
@sgtoox First I was not addressing you I was addressing the person who did it. I don't know who did it. I just have no other means of expressing my disagreement then to add it to the end of the comment directed to you... It was however as you will note addressed to "the person" and not you.
Ghost in the shell is an cartoon. It might make some interesting social commentary but I am not sure I am ready to base my opinions on it.
Thanks I appreciate your input.
Ghost in the shell is an cartoon. It might make some interesting social commentary but I am not sure I am ready to base my opinions on it.
Thanks I appreciate your input.
I would not ever own one. There are some potential problems with this kind of relationship. It can be a practice ground for relationships but without any real interaction it is very limited. people who substitute a doll for the real thing cannot develop a real understanding and caring about another person's feelings and emotions. They are truly only an object. One of the biggest hurdles people have with developing a lasting relationship is treating others as objects there only for personal gratification. This only encourages this behavior. It is self-serving and can get in the way of truly thinking about someone other than themselves and their own selfish urges.
But then again, maybe it is better that they confine this release to an object and not subject another person to their "desires". Maybe it will keep them from reproducing.
But then again, maybe it is better that they confine this release to an object and not subject another person to their "desires". Maybe it will keep them from reproducing.
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I agree there could be problems that arise as a result of the use of this product in what could be called a relationship. Since we are referring to a person actually creating the attributes of another person in their mind that could be more easily classified as a case of schizophrenia then actually having anything at all to do with relationships. Again avoidance of stereotypes is essential to objectivity. I don't think they have done a case study on the numbers of clients with mental, emotional issues. But, given trends in studies people exhibiting deviant sexual behavior are almost always a minority. The best we can do in this case is to speculate based on established trends. That is without having access to or doing an independent blind study. What I am trying to say is that more then likely the person represented in this video is a rather small section of the overall number of people who use this product. Keep in mind would the video company rather have a video of a more average man not acting in an extreme manner or would they like to have a subject who would invoke an emotional response and increase ratings and circulation of it's product. I am fairly sure it is the later. I would call into question the motivations of the production company in making the video.
There is a movie that deals with this. "Lars And The Real Girl."
I personally think there are probably some serious underlying issues there. While fantasy and make believe are extremely important to the human psyche, it sounds like some of these guys have taken it that next step. I would guess there are some dissociative disorders involved somewhere along the lines here...In my own, and ultimately under-qualified, opinion, these dolls are a symptom of a problem rather than the problem itself. It looks to me like they are using these dolls as a way of dealing with some mental trauma...
While I DO think that they are interfering with them men creating relationships, I don't think anything would come of those relationships. In fact, I seriously doubt they would even be able to enter into one...people are cruel. Something broke most of these guys, and until they are fixed, the dolls are probably the most sympathetic and fulfilling relationship they can expect...the downside is that this delusion ultimately keeps them from seeking help...So are they bad for them? Yes and no....
Yes, the disparity between male and female dolls IS telling, but not in the way you are probably thinking. While it's true, the majority of these doll owners are going to be male, the problems which cause people to seek them are fairly evenly dispersed. The difference is that the men seek solace in these dolls, where women lean more towards the meaningless relationships. Next time your in a dive bar, look at the bar fly woman who goes home with a different guy every night...I would guess she would own a doll if she were male...
As far as personally owning one...I find them a bit creepy. Granted, I want a robot, but that's mostly just the nerd factor...and if I can get it to clean, groovy.
BTW...here's the next gen:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465844,00.html
http://www.projectaiko.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l6buDfU9AY
And an aside, I think boston legal has a character (jerry) who has a doll...he also has other issues from the episode or two I've seen...
While I DO think that they are interfering with them men creating relationships, I don't think anything would come of those relationships. In fact, I seriously doubt they would even be able to enter into one...people are cruel. Something broke most of these guys, and until they are fixed, the dolls are probably the most sympathetic and fulfilling relationship they can expect...the downside is that this delusion ultimately keeps them from seeking help...So are they bad for them? Yes and no....
Yes, the disparity between male and female dolls IS telling, but not in the way you are probably thinking. While it's true, the majority of these doll owners are going to be male, the problems which cause people to seek them are fairly evenly dispersed. The difference is that the men seek solace in these dolls, where women lean more towards the meaningless relationships. Next time your in a dive bar, look at the bar fly woman who goes home with a different guy every night...I would guess she would own a doll if she were male...
As far as personally owning one...I find them a bit creepy. Granted, I want a robot, but that's mostly just the nerd factor...and if I can get it to clean, groovy.
BTW...here's the next gen:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,465844,00.html
http://www.projectaiko.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l6buDfU9AY
And an aside, I think boston legal has a character (jerry) who has a doll...he also has other issues from the episode or two I've seen...
Say what you like about the dolls. Robots would be fun in a home. At least until they break or break something. I would own a robot to... Though I think I would make it stay in the garage and do little things like cut the grass, vacuum, maybe some lifting. LOL Ya I am a geek to. I think I would call mine "neh"
There can be a long drawn out answer for this one, but here are my thoughts...
Are the dolls doing more harm then good?
They do no harm to anyone (at least you know you wouldn't get any diseases or have any unexpected pregnancies from sleeping with one), but I certainly do not believe they help the people who own them socialize with real people, and relate better to real people. This does not lend itself to a real relationship. It's almost like having a fantasy webcam chat online with a person overseas who you've never met in real life, yet there is no real human value to this.
No offense to anyone, but I do not see this any different than owning any sort of gadget or toy that pleases a human in some way because they own it, yet at the end of the day it's just a material object. It has no human feelings, or sense to it.
If the doll harms a human relationship (hurts someone), then it would not be good for that relationship. Some relationships may benefit from a toy like this as well, just as they benefit from having any sort of toy in their relationship.
Are they preventing the men from establishing real relationships with women? Or do you think that these men would be loners either way?
Yes, I believe these men are certainly prevented from real relationships if this is their only means of relationship. It depends on the man, some men can have a relationship and have one of these toys. I do not believe the doll itself replaces a real human relationship, as these dolls are not real, and they cannot reproduce, or have the same kind of relationship that two humans can have in real life. You aren't going to have the same social experiences with this doll, you aren't going to take this doll out in public. It's kind of like a closet addiction.
Is there any circumstances where you think that having a real doll would be a good thing for someone?
Yes, when the person has a chronic illness or is sick to the point where this may be their only option, and they have nobody, but the doll. This would be a last resort. Also, when it might help out a real relationship. Maybe a relationship has a fantasy to have a third person in their life, and this might be helpful. Children also like to play with dolls, yet I don't see this for grown adults.
Is it telling that while there are 16 different female dolls, there is only 1 male doll? (Although shemale dolls are an option).
I think this can go either way, a doll can be male or female. Think of Barbie and Ken.
Would you ever own one? Why or why not?
No, it would not own one. It's a little freaky to think, but who knows, over time people may change their mind and like to own as a novelty item, but I would not see myself having a relationship with one. Not saying I do not like robots and gadgets, as I am totally a gadget geek. I just don't see humans or material objects that try to mimic humans as a gadget. I would put it in the category of a doll, and my sister and mother collect these sort of items. This would be something a doll collector might like, yet a gadget and robot collector would probably not think to be as a gadget. Human beings are not gadgets!
Personally, I would rather a robot that looks like a robot, than one that looks like a real human. I personally like toy robots. I actually went to the wax museum one day, and thought it was wild to see all the people built in wax, but not be able to talk to them.
Are the dolls doing more harm then good?
They do no harm to anyone (at least you know you wouldn't get any diseases or have any unexpected pregnancies from sleeping with one), but I certainly do not believe they help the people who own them socialize with real people, and relate better to real people. This does not lend itself to a real relationship. It's almost like having a fantasy webcam chat online with a person overseas who you've never met in real life, yet there is no real human value to this.
No offense to anyone, but I do not see this any different than owning any sort of gadget or toy that pleases a human in some way because they own it, yet at the end of the day it's just a material object. It has no human feelings, or sense to it.
If the doll harms a human relationship (hurts someone), then it would not be good for that relationship. Some relationships may benefit from a toy like this as well, just as they benefit from having any sort of toy in their relationship.
Are they preventing the men from establishing real relationships with women? Or do you think that these men would be loners either way?
Yes, I believe these men are certainly prevented from real relationships if this is their only means of relationship. It depends on the man, some men can have a relationship and have one of these toys. I do not believe the doll itself replaces a real human relationship, as these dolls are not real, and they cannot reproduce, or have the same kind of relationship that two humans can have in real life. You aren't going to have the same social experiences with this doll, you aren't going to take this doll out in public. It's kind of like a closet addiction.
Is there any circumstances where you think that having a real doll would be a good thing for someone?
Yes, when the person has a chronic illness or is sick to the point where this may be their only option, and they have nobody, but the doll. This would be a last resort. Also, when it might help out a real relationship. Maybe a relationship has a fantasy to have a third person in their life, and this might be helpful. Children also like to play with dolls, yet I don't see this for grown adults.
Is it telling that while there are 16 different female dolls, there is only 1 male doll? (Although shemale dolls are an option).
I think this can go either way, a doll can be male or female. Think of Barbie and Ken.
Would you ever own one? Why or why not?
No, it would not own one. It's a little freaky to think, but who knows, over time people may change their mind and like to own as a novelty item, but I would not see myself having a relationship with one. Not saying I do not like robots and gadgets, as I am totally a gadget geek. I just don't see humans or material objects that try to mimic humans as a gadget. I would put it in the category of a doll, and my sister and mother collect these sort of items. This would be something a doll collector might like, yet a gadget and robot collector would probably not think to be as a gadget. Human beings are not gadgets!
Personally, I would rather a robot that looks like a robot, than one that looks like a real human. I personally like toy robots. I actually went to the wax museum one day, and thought it was wild to see all the people built in wax, but not be able to talk to them.
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I've met women who have problems with the idea of their boyfriends pleasuring himself or watching porn. Women like that would most likely view owning a real doll as a deal breaker. If they the man is single or his girlfriend feels no threat than it would be a helpful sideline tool.
Like any product, they fill a need. A very twisted, necrophilic need, but a need still. The harm has been done before acquiring the dolls, and we tend to ignore that cause.
They're not preventing anything. My guess is that people have had bad experiences with the opposite sex, that's why they turn to things like these.
If they're a good thing? That's too much rationalization. Watching porn is a good thing?
There are 16 female dolls? Ah, that's the pokemon effect, gotta catch 'em all!
I wouldn't own one though, unless it's this realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-VGX50gt4A (animatrix clip, kinda nsfw)
They're not preventing anything. My guess is that people have had bad experiences with the opposite sex, that's why they turn to things like these.
If they're a good thing? That's too much rationalization. Watching porn is a good thing?
There are 16 female dolls? Ah, that's the pokemon effect, gotta catch 'em all!
I wouldn't own one though, unless it's this realistic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-VGX50gt4A (animatrix clip, kinda nsfw)
It depends on the user but from the sex point view it allows for experimentation and there is also no risk of STDS but it also allows you to find out what you like and dont like so like the old saying goes " Practice makes perfect". But dont get carried away as if overused you may actually depend on it.
Take it from someone who owned a RealDoll. It's a complete waste of money. Even though it looks very realistic, it does not simulate sex in any worthwhile fashion to warrant its price. Don't buy one. The materials are not durable and tear easily when moving its body parts, the "orifices" for pleasure are not engineered to be even close to realistic in their feel, their size, and their usability. They try to get the weight as close to real as possible, and it sucks. A real person can move on their own, but the RealDoll cannot so it's all dead weight. Not something worth fighting with when trying to pleasure oneself. Before the RealDoll is worth considering, the materials need to be more flexible and durable, possibly even smoother feeling, the orifices need much accommodating modifications, the weight needs to be reduced to a manageable "doll" weight, and it needs to be more posable. It is NOT worth $6000! Not even $3000. Save your cash and go to Las Vegas.
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Another thing that's occurred to me as I've thought more about this regards the man who spent so much on these dolls but still lives at home. It reminds me of the Pygmalion myth. A man is so attached to an artificial representation of a woman that he begs the gods to make her real, because he can't think about anything other than his artificial woman.
This man has a similar obsession, but unfortunately Athena is not (to my knowledge) a real being, and she can't turn this doll into a real girl for him. It's fascinating to me to think about the way the brain works, and there's definitely something abnormal with the wiring in a brain that values a self-created illusion of security more than a will for independence.
So I guess that the real question of help vs. harm is one that should be considered by the doll's manufacturer. They have to know that a large part of their customer base would be individuals with these unhealthy obsessions, and thus they are indisputably profiting on the mental illness of others. I would say, though, that providing dolls for these people is more of a help than a harm. From a philanthropic standpoint, they are providing a harmless outlet for otherwise unhealthy tendencies, even if it is at a high price.
And from a pragmatic standpoint, as long as these men are bonking the dolls and not real women, they aren't spreading their genes.
This has certainly proven to be a thought provoking question for me. Kudos on that.