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M$3.40 September 23, 2009 01:51 PM

What do you think about the Unemployment Extension bill?

The House passed a bill yesterday, that if ratified by the Senate, would extend unemployment benefits in states where unemployment is still extraordinarily high. This would be the fourth extension since the recession began. PBS has an interesting video that discusses the pros and cons of extending unemployment benefits that you can watch here.
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September 23, 2009 03:27 PM
The unemployment bill is a good suplement for people who have been layed off. It has helped millions of americans who have lost their jobs due to poverty and the economy fallout. However, it is also a extension to those who have been living off unemployment benifits for months or even years. Just as in the video, the 'bill' as anything has its pros and cons and its just how any one individual uses these benifits that makes the difference.
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September 23, 2009 11:27 PM
yeah that about sums it up. nice pic by the way, you must be Chilean.

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September 24, 2009 08:18 PM
No, I think she's/he's just a fan of NCIS.

I agree, though, good answer by kndubbs.

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September 28, 2009 03:43 AM
you got it right ronin... Just a huge fan of NCIS :) Thanks for the compliments

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September 23, 2009 02:11 PM
Looking at the bill yesterday evening just briefly but A little more in depth, It basically says that only states with a unemployment rate higher than 8.2 percent will have the extra 37 Million dollars in additional benefits available to them. It is also required that the state has had a continuous 8.0% average UI rate since the start of the year.

So this might mean US states like Connecticut (which have a 8.1% UI rate) and not a continuous 8% average have missed the requirements by the skin of their teeth.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Especially for US States Like Connecticut.

If you read carefully my answer to the question on weather or not benefits should be extended.

http://www.mahalo.com/answers/from-twitter/should-we-expand-umployment-from-record-79-weeks-to-82-weeks-or-more-79-is-longest-since-creation-of-unemployment-in-1930

You will see I'm a proponent for helping people .
And I believe unemployment should be extended to a degree.
(Especially now for Americans)

What this bill is essentially doing is saying that states with Less than 1 tenth of every 10 capable working adults who are on virtually on Unemployment are not eligible.

In my humble opinion I feel this was a bad move.

The unemployment rate in the US is rising, its NOT getting lower.
This might start forcing people that have worked at jobs for over 10-30 YEARS to end up feeling emancipated from the US Federal Labor system.

A system that is supposed to help EVERYONE .
Not just the blue states. (Which is exactly what this bill will do)

I'm glad to see help is still there but it should be there for everyone or not at all.

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@XDS

PS: I think its important to mention this does not weigh on your rights to file for unemployment in any way, it just says that if you have already been getting 79 weeks of benefits that this will be extended.
YOU CAN STILL FILE if you have never filed before or can appeal if you where denied!
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September 23, 2009 06:29 PM
Since I had the best answer to the previous question, I can't really add much more that XDS so eloquently stated.

I just want to know two things:

1 - What time are they starting up the magical money machine to fund this?
2 - Where do I stand in line to get my share if things keep sliding downhill at work and I find myself out in the cold? I live in IL, so I should get more of this magical money, right?

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September 23, 2009 11:17 PM
What time ?

I think as soon as the statistics are out by each states DLT would be when the money would start flowing in for this.

Where do you personally stand or where does IL stand. ?

You personally I couldn't legally comment on.

But as far as Illinois is considered I think that would depend on the laws in that particular state, in some states they require different things (such as work programs and proof of you searching for a job) .

As long as IL 's #'s are above the 8.0 % average for the year and currently above 8.2 then you should at the very most have to re-apply and if their are no discrepancies , get your funds ASAP.

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September 23, 2009 11:26 PM
how does it just help blues states? are there not some so-called red states that would benefit? South Carolina? Tennessee? Alabama? Georgia...
http://www.bls.gov/web/laumstrk.htm

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September 23, 2009 11:37 PM
@defolts Essentially given the population of the states that have these funds available to them have a larger population as a hole.

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September 23, 2009 11:48 PM
Also i think its quite obvious that more of the states listed in the list are strongly democratic states. (Including puerto rico)
The scale is just enormously in that favor.

For the district data i'm looking at anyways.

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September 23, 2009 11:58 PM
The list of states the currently qualify is on the Mahalo Unemployment Extension page.

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September 24, 2009 01:54 PM
Looking at the list of states, I see no blue/red imbalance. Georgia, Mississippi, Florida, and South Carolina are on the list.

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September 24, 2009 02:18 PM
@albanian

I really wouldn't call Florida a strong red state,
(other than being the home of gov jeb bush) , it has a even blue/red district layout.
The same with allot of the states mentioned.

I also think it would be unfair to count Puerto Rico, as its more of a protectorate than a state, even though its partially democratic.

Like i said however this was just my humble opinion.

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September 25, 2009 07:57 AM
Well said and well researched, nominated for Sept 24th Answer of the Day here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/33749589@40N07/3917686970

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September 23, 2009 03:57 PM
As someone who's involuntarily out of work, I'm very glad unemployment is being extended, though I don't think it's fair to only do it for some states. I don't know what I would do if my unemployment benefits run out before I find a job.

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September 23, 2009 05:13 PM
I'm happy about it. My significant other has been laid off since March. Before that he was employed with a construction company for 10 years with great pay. He was one of the last to be laid off from the job. Suddenly there was no one and the company started losing bids to other contractors who under bid the projects. The company is currently not doing any work. So my SO had to look for another job. He is still looking. He has been contacting people left and right yet no one is hiring at a decent wage. One of the people that called him back was an agency that wanted him to be an operator for $15 an hour. Operators in this area normally get $35 an hour. When we got that offer, we realized that we were making more on unemployment while still paying taxes. Today he has an interview with another company that we believe pays the proper county wages for operators/ laborers. Hopefully he will get that job but if he doesn't, I'd like for us to have the option of still having money come in by extending unemployment. Right now we are considering our first extension. Hopefully that will be all that is needed but until the economy gets better extensions are needed.
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October 13, 2009 06:17 AM
Oh, thank you so much for sharing your story. I had been working 10 years as a scientist and then engineering project manager, at the very end (after more than a decade of high-stress & struggle) making $50/hour, when my company shut down completely. I have other friends from my company who found another job, and then were laid off again within a year! I initially started my own business (this was right before the recession), but when things started to go terribly wrong w/the economy, I tried to go back to my industry. So far, it's been seemingly impossible for both myself and 2 other, well-educated friends. We've all been applying and networking for months, but can't even get returned calls from HR. I was promoted 7 times in 7 years at my last job, and have an excellent resume, but I'm hearing from recruiters that hiring managers in our field (in California) are getting 100-300 resumes for each position every DAY. It even took more than an hour just to get inside the building at a biotech job fair, then another 20-30 minutes to get to the front of each line inside. To help get by, I've started doing freelance web development, but it's not paying like a steady high-level job, and my EDD doesn't come close to paying my housing expenses. Some people who aren't looking for a job just don't realize how hard it is right now. I would never in a million years have guessed this would happen to me, or my friends. I always figured this happened to people who had less specialized skills, or weren't in a high-tech industry. I was so wrong! The last thing I want to do is use the last of my savings just trying to pay bills. I know a contractor with a family to support who has 12 years of experience, and he too can barely find work. I know there are some people being generically lazy on EDD; I even know one person who makes enough on EDD to pay all of her monthly expenses, and she's much less motivated to look for work (which I try not to judge, but I do find this disgusting). But, there are a lot more people who really DO want to work, and the EDD is helping them just to survive!!

Good luck to you as well, lindalstcy, I hope you husband was able to get that job!

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September 23, 2009 06:35 PM
Exactly as one respondent posted, if passed this will further delay people from learning that wages are a factor of what the market will pay for work. The longer people can draw unemployment because the job offers they're getting don't pay what they used to make, means longer until jobs and money starts circulating again, and longer until our economy begins to correct.

It would be better for people to start having to get jobs or pay they previously thought "beneath them" so that the supply and demand mechanisms will begin correcting the labor markets. All extending unemployment will do is create an artificial shortage of labor keeping prices at levels demand is unwilling to support until unemployment benefits are bankrupt or stopped.

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September 23, 2009 07:17 PM
I wish the new market would adjust mortgage payments so that people could afford to take that lower paying job. not everybody thinks they are "beneath them", some folks can't pay their bills on those wages.

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September 23, 2009 07:22 PM
Just to clarify, the pay offered was not "beneath" my SO. It was a matter of practicality. I can pay my bills with his unemployment but if he took the job where with the pay decrease we would not be able too. Unemployment is saving me from losing what I have, which isn't much to begin with and providing food and clothing on my kids backs while we search for a job that we can do those things with.

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September 23, 2009 07:51 PM
Increasing "benefits" merely increases the incentive *to remain unemployed.* The higher the increase, the higher the incentive.

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September 23, 2009 08:52 PM
I think it shows we are not in recovery from the recession. The president knows too and that is the reason for the increase. I live in one of those states and jobs just aren't out there.
With winter coming soon it will close down more jobs with the cold season. Soon there will be even less work here and higher heating cost. It's not going to be easy anywhere and they know no matter what they are trying to tell the American people.
That said, it is time to begin thinking of home businesses and private businesses. It is going to be a slow recovery and we all have to do whatever we can to improve the economy little by little.

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September 23, 2009 10:38 PM
I think it could be useful for many, but in the long run the money has to come from somewhere. This could push the economy towards another Great Depression.

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September 24, 2009 06:15 AM
I would limit unemployment benefits to 52 weeks. I think that it would be better to have other programs to help the unemployed like, OJT, housing swaps so that people can move to places that have better opportunities, no-fee business licenses and free accounting courses so that people could go into business for themselves.

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September 24, 2009 01:58 PM
With unemployment above 8%, that means people can't get jobs, not that they don't want them or are turning them down. Unemployment only goes to people that were working and were laid off, not to the chronically unemployed or unemployable. Spending money to prevent them going bankrupt or becoming homeless is a heck of a lot cheaper than trying to fix the social ills afterward.

One thing the government never does and ought to do is to sponsor and subsidize people moving from one state to another to find or accept work.

Overall I'm in favor.

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October 27, 2009 08:43 AM
I paid for unemployment for over 40 years of FUTA tax out of my paychecks. I want to know where it is now that I need it. I agree it needs to be equal treatment and accelerated treatment to those states with high unemployment like the broke state of California.

Lets get it together guys we are all dying out here. Shovel work? I would do it in a heartbeat just to make a few bucks but where is it? Google is right next door with their $100k salaried twenty somethings. Hey Google how about hiring a mature adult who is ready willing and able to do anything. I do have a masters degree, and I cannot find a job, and you name anything I guarantee they will not hire, because no company has money, none of them. We are a bankrupt country and I want to see our government step in like Roosevelt stepped in in 1932. I have always been a hard worker and now with no job, over 2000 resumes sent out and nothing, it is more than unconscionable.

So extend the benefits so that people in my age group who have been unilaterally laid off, can get their benefits that they paid for or else give us that FUTA money back.

I am mad as hell that this is even a topic of discussion. When are we going to get it going again or are we on a viscous slide and America's dream is over and done with?

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